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Thursday, 29 January 09, 05:32 AM · Comments (281)

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This just in and would you believe, from OleOle's Arseblogger. He's a funny guy. It's the Arry Redscnapps Management Flow Chart. folks. What I want to know is what you make of him. Here's some classic Arry, then, to get you in the mood.

 

 

"He took a knock on the ankle - but we played some Bob Marley reggae music and he was fine. That lad is so laid-back it's not true  [on Kenwyne Jones]"

"We went to watch a show - Billy Joel. Half of the foreign lads weren't quite sure who Billy Joel was, but I enjoyed it anyway. For the Charlton game I'll really punish them - I'll take them to see Mamma Mia"

 "It is about deciding what is a blatant dive and what is not.”

"Samassi Abou don't speak the English too good."

"I stood there all day with a plastic angel in my pocket. I believe in fate - I'm as silly as a bunch of lights"

 He's cocky and arrogant but show him a goal and he's away, like a wind-up toy [on Jermain Defoe]

 

"After shooting practice yesterday, I had to drive up the M27 and collect four balls."

"I don't like these silly phone-in programmes. People come on who don't know what the hell they are talking about and say things like 'sack the manager because the team played crap today."

 "I tape over most of the player videos with Corrie or Neighbours. Most of them are crap. They can f***ing make anyone look good. I signed Marco Boogers off a video. He was a good player but a nutter. They didn't show that on the video."

“At no time did I use abusive language.


 

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thfcwaynethfc
1. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 12.22GMT | Jan 29, 2009


"Even when they had Moore, Hurst and Peters, West Ham's average finish was about 17th. It just shows how crap the other 8 of us were"

"Hartson's got more previous than Jack the Ripper"

"By the look of him he [Ian Dowie] must have headed a lot of balls"

“Everyone f***ing jumps all over you. They don't care Michael Carrick's just 19. When he gave the ball away the other week there was 20000 people c*nting him off. He give a bad ball and they are all f***ing "weeerrrr".”

"Where are we in relation to Europe? Not far from Dover"

and my favourite


"Dani is so good-looking I don't know whether to play him or f*ck him"

HornchurchYids
2. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 12.30GMT | Jan 29, 2009

So, the scum goons have taken a break from slagging off their own boss and players and turn their attention to us. :D Obviously, not happening on the field for them at the mo. Shame.
The cunts! :P

pat m
3. pat m Wrote: | 12.31GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Dani is so good-looking I don't know whether to play him or f*ck him" :) :) :) :) :)

Classic

Trembly
4. Trembly Wrote: | 12.36GMT | Jan 29, 2009

“I’d love to win trophies and try to compete for a Champions League position... Basically, the dream is to make Tottenham a terrific team once again."

Triffic. Twitch.Twich.

ScoobySpurs
5. ScoobySpurs Wrote: | 12.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

There's some gems there that's for sure. Added to the well known "no wonder he's in the fucking reserves" you tube video you've gotta laugh at the fella! It's nice to actually look forward to an interview or press conference again after the pain of the Poyet/Ramos efforts. No matter what you might think of Harry he's a character... and there's not enough of them left in the game for me.

ScoobySpurs
6. ScoobySpurs Wrote: | 12.43GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Trembly:

“I’d love to win trophies and try to compete for a Champions League position... Basically, the dream is to make Tottenham a terrific team once again."

Triffic. Twitch.Twich.

Watch how many times he says "you know" along with the twitch too!!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
7. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 12.53GMT | Jan 29, 2009

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

Mr Tottenham
8. Mr Tottenham Wrote: | 12.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Arry is a great character but would be even better if we could win some fucking away games!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
9. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 13.00GMT | Jan 29, 2009

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

Snap
10. Snap Wrote: | 13.00GMT | Jan 29, 2009

He's a diamond:

Redknapp enjoyed many memorable moments during his lengthy spell in charge of West Ham – none more so than the time he plucked a supporter out of the crowd and played him in a pre-season friendly against Oxford.

Redknapp added: "One bloke sat next to the dugout and kept shouting at Lee Chapman. 'We haven't got Chapman again have we, Harry? He's rubbish, get rid of him'. I'd used all my subs so I said: 'Oi, big mouth, can you play as good as you talk?' He said 'I'm better than that ------ Chapman'.

"So I told him he was playing. We got him some boots because he didn't have any. He had West Ham tattoos all over him: legs, arms, ears. I stuck him on as centre-forward.

"He ran up the touchline and the local reporter asked who the sub was for the Tannoy. I said: 'Who's the sub? Haven't you been watching the World Cup? It's Titishyev, the Bulgarian striker'.

"Then he got on, ran about and scored a goal. He came off and said: 'I told you I was better than Chapman'. He loved it and it made his day."

Grazza
11. Grazza Wrote: | 13.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Triffic!!!

Does anyone know if we have to win the Carling Cup to achieve UEFA qualification or will the fact that Man Utd will surely qualify for Champs League mean we can sneak qualification by getting to the Final?

Longwell
12. Longwell Wrote: | 13.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I've always liked this one:

"Van Persie must've thought, 'Why take the piss out of poor little Southampton? I'll get myself sent off and make a game of it.'"

Or something to that effect.

HarryHotspur
13. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 13.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

Do tell us more.... In cards, these contribute to 'tells'?

jolsgonemental
14. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 13.02GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


BruceCastle
15. BruceCastle Wrote: | 13.03GMT | Jan 29, 2009

That chart was posted on DearMrLevy on Monday, but he had no idea who to drew it. Never would have guessed it was an Arse supporter!

Longwell
16. Longwell Wrote: | 13.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Grazza:

Triffic!!!

Does anyone know if we have to win the Carling Cup to achieve UEFA qualification or will the fact that Man Utd will surely qualify for Champs League mean we can sneak qualification by getting to the Final?

We have to win the cup. Rules changed for this season, I believe.

TheSchoolboy
17. TheSchoolboy Wrote: | 13.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Grazza:

Triffic!!!

Does anyone know if we have to win the Carling Cup to achieve UEFA qualification or will the fact that Man Utd will surely qualify for Champs League mean we can sneak qualification by getting to the Final?

It's the same as last year we'll have to win it. If utd win and get in Europe then the CCup spot goes to the premier league.

jolsgonemental
18. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 13.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

Reply to Grazza:

Triffic!!!

Does anyone know if we have to win the Carling Cup to achieve UEFA qualification or will the fact that Man Utd will surely qualify for Champs League mean we can sneak qualification by getting to the Final?

We have to win the cup. Rules changed for this season, I believe.

always been winner only.

Longwell
19. Longwell Wrote: | 13.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to jolsgonemental:

Reply to Longwell:
Reply to Grazza:

Triffic!!!

Does anyone know if we have to win the Carling Cup to achieve UEFA qualification or will the fact that Man Utd will surely qualify for Champs League mean we can sneak qualification by getting to the Final?

We have to win the cup. Rules changed for this season, I believe.

always been winner only.

I swear I remember it happening before. Or was it only for the FA Cup?

thfcwaynethfc
20. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 13.08GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to jolsgonemental:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

Longwell
21. Longwell Wrote: | 13.14GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

We'd have an awfully thin squad if we got rid of players on that basis.

Finn
22. Finn Wrote: | 13.15GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I think 'arrys playing a pretty canny game; let's face it he's doing to other clubs what Ferguson and Rafa did to us. That they did it and the authorities were made aware of it, but dropped into the "Nelson-not-seeing-ships-but-taking-the-piss-out-of-Pontious-Pilate pose, really makes it hard for them to come out against 'arry's casual but qualified asides to the press. He's also done it with Man City and I think the Santa Cruz bid is, (whilst it would be good to get him I think) part of some horse trading yet to come.

"arry's doing OK so far. We are not top flight material but he's pulling in some interest from a very limited available player pool whilst also trying to keep a negotiation stance open against the back drop of our widely acknowledged need and Citeh pure stupidity. (Fancy stumping up 100 million quid? That makes me worth a few hundred grand to come and sweep up!)

That 'arry has exploited a situation for the benefit of the club is great and what we need and have needed for some time time. It's no mistake that the most successful managers of a generation are all people who have that same attribute.

If only we can get the players to sieze advantages on the pitch too to the same effect.

thfcwaynethfc
23. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 13.20GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

We'd have an awfully thin squad if we got rid of players on that basis.

centre midfielders we have zokora, jenas, palacious, huddlestone, modric, taarbt, ohara possibly appiah.

i dont think we will miss hudd and as you see we already have at least 7 centre midfielders.

toddspur
24. toddspur Wrote: | 13.24GMT | Jan 29, 2009

i love Gus;

LINK

juergensdive
25. juergensdive Wrote: | 13.31GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY commentator, Jamie R, spatters his sentences with double-negatives and split infinitives.
I don't care, as long as the message is kosher!

Barry
26. Barry Wrote: | 13.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

We are going to be short of strikers in the UEFA CUP if Pav & Defoe are cup tied and Bent is sold !! any sugestions ?

perrymann
27. perrymann Wrote: | 13.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

Raf_THFC
28. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 13.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I'm happy to help Thudd pack his locker - might take him a few weeks to do it otherwise - in between eating hot dogs and his general slowness...don't want to miss that transfer deadline.

Poshspur
29. Poshspur Wrote: | 13.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Raf_THFC
30. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 13.45GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Poshspur:

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Yep - he also lost his sense of smell due to that crash.

thfcwaynethfc
31. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 13.47GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to perrymann:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Longwell
32. Longwell Wrote: | 13.49GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Raf_THFC:

Reply to Poshspur:

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Yep - he also lost his sense of smell due to that crash.

So when he lays into the lads and tells them they're playing like shit, has anyone had the minerals to ask,

"Well, how would you know?"

Poshspur
33. Poshspur Wrote: | 13.50GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Raf_THFC:

Reply to Poshspur:

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Yep - he also lost his sense of smell due to that crash.

on a positive, that's why he can manage Bentley,Zakora and Bale now without the smell of shit being too overwhelming!
Sorry couldn't resist and yes they're now all trying much harder!

Longwell
34. Longwell Wrote: | 13.50GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

jolsgonemental
35. jolsgonemental Wrote: | 13.52GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Raf_THFC:

Reply to Poshspur:

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Yep - he also lost his sense of smell due to that crash.

thats why he genuinely thinks his shit dont stink.

Longwell
36. Longwell Wrote: | 13.52GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to jolsgonemental:

Reply to Raf_THFC:
Reply to Poshspur:

I don't want to get all pc on y'all, but aren't Harry's facial ticks a direct result of the hideous car crash he was involved in when his mate died?
Sorry to bring the mood down if not. 8O

Yep - he also lost his sense of smell due to that crash.

thats why he genuinely thinks his shit dont stink.

And we have a winner.

thfcwaynethfc
37. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 13.55GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still not won over by him though, but ill give him more time due to change in attitude.

Longwell
38. Longwell Wrote: | 13.59GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to Longwell:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time stocks this season. Who's next?

perrymann
39. perrymann Wrote: | 14.03GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to Longwell:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

8) Thats nice of u. ;)

perrymann
40. perrymann Wrote: | 14.06GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Longwell:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

8) u ;)

vincenzo_spur
41. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 14.09GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's been here a month... the boy needs an answer" etc

I hope we don't regret this one- what harm could a short term contract do?

jackjones
42. jackjones Wrote: | 14.11GMT | Jan 29, 2009

8) u twat ;)

Blanchflower
43. Blanchflower Wrote: | 14.12GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Snap:

He's a diamond:

Redknapp enjoyed many memorable moments during his lengthy spell in charge of West Ham – none more so than the time he plucked a supporter out of the crowd and played him in a pre-season friendly against Oxford.

Redknapp added: "One bloke sat next to th...

That's cracking. Maybe he'll sign 'Titishyev', it does say that he "...ran about and scored a goal."

When weighed against Bent, there seems to be only one winner: eager, runs and scores. Marks out of ten comparing the pair?

thfcwaynethfc
44. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.13GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Longwell:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to perrymann:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jolsgonemental:

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont give a f*ck how much he works, put me in the team and ill f*cking work.

bent has had chances too, he is not good enough either, again if we get a sizeable fee get rid.

perrymann
45. perrymann Wrote: | 14.18GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) u twat ;)

8) Keano is red
Carlo was blue
Arry smells sh*t
And me thinks its u. ;)

Nunchucks
46. Nunchucks Wrote: | 14.18GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

vincenzo_spur
47. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 14.21GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

jackjones
48. jackjones Wrote: | 14.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

8) arry can't smell,so he couldn't tell
perryman's a twat,he can see that ;)

thfcwaynethfc
49. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.24GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

I f*cking love this club and would work my f*cking ass off for success, i would give 120%, similar to what zokora does......he gives us f*ck all apart from work rate.

can any1 name me any decent midfielder that cant pass or for that matter shoot?

Raf_THFC
50. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 14.25GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

Have to agree - time to recoup some £'s, flog Bent & Thudd, I'd probably suggest we keep Zokora as no one will give us our money back for him 8O , but I'd sign Appiah - he might not be fit enough, but substitutions are allowed and he can change a game.

Nunchucks
51. Nunchucks Wrote: | 14.26GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

I f*cking love this club and would work my f*cking ass off for success, i would give 120%, similar to what zokora does......he gives us f*ck all apart from work rate.

can any1 name me any decent midfielder that cant pass or for that matter shoot?

You've gone all sweary all of a sudden. New Years resolution?

Well, he's supposed to be a defensive mid, so the fact he can't shoot isn't really that important. But I can name you quite a few that can't tackle.

thfcwaynethfc
52. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.27GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment anyway, staying up is.

thfcwaynethfc
53. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.31GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

I f*cking love this club and would work my f*cking ass off for success, i would give 120%, similar to what zokora does......he gives us f*ck all apart from work rate.

can any1 name me any decent midfielder that cant pass or for that matter shoot?

You've gone all sweary all of a sudden. New Years resolution?

Well, he's supposed to be a defensive mid, so the fact he can't shoot isn't really that important. But I can name you quite a few that can't tackle.

Im getting sick of ppl trying to defend players who are not good enough.

zokora - i like the guy, for his workrate, however im not letting my heart rule my head, he is not good enough.

zokora - cant pass, simple. what is the sense in tackling, giving the ball away, winning it back, giving it away....none.

if any of these so called top clubs/managers want him........take him.

Nunchucks
54. Nunchucks Wrote: | 14.34GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

I f*cking love this club and would work my f*cking ass off for success, i would give 120%, similar to what zokora does......he gives us f*ck all apart from work rate.

can any1 name me any decent midfielder that cant pass or for that matter shoot?

You've gone all sweary all of a sudden. New Years resolution?

Well, he's supposed to be a defensive mid, so the fact he can't shoot isn't really that important. But I can name you quite a few that can't tackle.

Im getting sick of ppl trying to defend players who are not good enough.

zokora - i like the guy, for his workrate, however im not letting my heart rule my head, he is not good enough.

zokora - cant pass, simple. what is the sense in tackling, giving the ball away, winning...

I'm sorry I'm making you sick.

And I'm really not usually a Zokora defender.

It's just I felt I had to do something to let you down gently when it appeared you were offering your actually offering your footballing services in light of the Titishyev story.

Ay carumba.

Longwell
55. Longwell Wrote: | 14.35GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

And if Campbell picks up a knock? Luka Modric, lone striker?

Where are all these sterling strikers beating down the door to sign with us? Who's out there on the market who's better than Bent? Fred? Jimmy Fucking Briand?

vincenzo_spur
56. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 14.38GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

i can agree with that... but in a couple of weeks we could be out of the mess we find ourselves in with a chance of winning something very prestigious.

sell bent in the summer i say, if he still hasnt proven his worth- that way we wont have to pay over the odds for another player who may well struggle to live with the record signing tag. January is insane.

Bent over campbell every day of the week by the way

Longwell
57. Longwell Wrote: | 14.40GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Campbell = Bent - finishing ability

PremierBlogger
58. PremierBlogger Wrote: | 14.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

oh Arry... He's such an inspiration. Isn't he?

Racing2profit
59. Racing2profit Wrote: | 14.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I have just had confirmation that Pav & Defoe along with Vedran Corluka are ineligible for the remainder of the UEFA CUP competition.

Raf_THFC
60. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 14.43GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Quite frankly don't give 2 hoots about the UEFA cup - it's all about the league and the CC for us this season. We're not going to win the UEFA with Bent as the main man (can't pass, can't head, can't dribble, but he can run about aimlessly and latch onto long balls played over the top, but can't be a targetman)

perrymann
61. perrymann Wrote: | 14.44GMT | Jan 29, 2009

8) How can u tell
That Arry cant smell
Hes been knee deep in sh*t
Since his time at The Dell. ;)

thfcwaynethfc
62. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.45GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell bent, bring a loan in as cover, will do exactly the same job / if not better.

essexyid
63. essexyid Wrote: | 14.47GMT | Jan 29, 2009

i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence he does, we would have nobody breaking up play, nobody driving forward, nobody tracking the men that slow old king and woody have let past them, we'd concede a hell of a lot more goals from counter attacks, AND we'd have no excellent cover for right back. I just cannot understand why it's so hard for so many to see what Zokora does! He's not a crowd pleaser but why is it that the rest of the premiership's fans can spot a good player faster than spurs fans?

baffled.

thfcwaynethfc
64. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.49GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

thfcwaynethfc
65. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.50GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Quite frankly don't give 2 hoots about the UEFA cup - it's all about the league and the CC for us this season. We're not going to win the UEFA with Bent as the main man (can't pass, can't head, can't dribble, but he can run about aimlessly and latch onto long balls played over the top, but can't be...

agree.

though villa in the next round be good!

ToniMontana
66. ToniMontana Wrote: | 14.54GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

thfcwaynethfc
67. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.54GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

also if he was that good, why has no1 made a bid for him?

Nunchucks
68. Nunchucks Wrote: | 14.54GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

thfcwaynethfc
69. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.56GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

thfcwaynethfc
70. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

my passing ability would be better.

i can pass the ball 5 yards, which is beyond zokora.

KOJAC
71. KOJAC Wrote: | 14.59GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

Racing2profit
72. Racing2profit Wrote: | 15.00GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Quite frankly don't give 2 hoots about the UEFA cup - it's all about the league and the CC for us this season. We're not going to win the UEFA with Bent as the main man (can't pass, can't head, can't dribble, but he can run about aimlessly and latch onto long balls played over the top, but can't be...

Every year we keep going on about getting into Europe and when we do, no one gives a toss!!

We'v probably got more chance in the UEFA cup than we have of beeting Manure

The players we have play better with more time on the ball as per our results in pre season against foreign teams ( remember then when we thought we were going to finnish TOP FOUR) ?

perrymann
73. perrymann Wrote: | 15.00GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

8) Chronic Suckora Derangement Syndrome. :D

thfcwaynethfc
74. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

Longwell
75. Longwell Wrote: | 15.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

Yes, let's sell our joint top scorer and needlessly handicap ourselves in the UEFA Cup just because he's on a poor run of form lately. Savvy.

Nunchucks
76. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.02GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

KOJAC
77. KOJAC Wrote: | 15.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

thfcwaynethfc
78. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Longwell
79. Longwell Wrote: | 15.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

my passing ability would be better.

i can pass the ball 5 yards, which is beyond zokora.

This hyperbole is silly. Zokora is prone to one or two poor or mis-hit passes per game, otherwise his passing is generally adequate.

Nunchucks
80. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

Good business. Unless, United decided to recall the only eligible striker after Bent was sold.

Me so cantankerous.

thfcwaynethfc
81. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

Yes, let's sell our joint top scorer and needlessly handicap ourselves in the UEFA Cup just because he's on a poor run of form lately. Savvy.

yes lets keep a player on over 40k a week just to play in the uefa cup.

Raf_THFC
82. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 15.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Quite frankly don't give 2 hoots about the UEFA cup - it's all about the league and the CC for us this season. We're not going to win the UEFA with Bent as the main man (can't pass, can't head, can't dribble, but he can run about aimlessly and latch onto long balls played over the top, but can't be...

Every year we keep going on about getting into Europe and when we do, no one gives a toss!!

We'v probably got more chance in the UEFA cup than we have of beeting Manure

The players we have play better with more time on the ball as per our results in pre season against...

I very much doubt we have the beating of the following with bent as our only striker (I'm not that keen on helping rednose out with training Campbell either):

Dynamo Kyiv
Valencia
Zenit
St Etienne
Aston Villa
CSKA Moskva
Deportivo
Bremen
Milan
Sampdoria
PSG
Wolfsburg
Galatasaray
Standard
Udinese
Man. City
Marseille
Fiorentina
Ajax

If we could play Pavly or Defoe - maybe. but not with Bent. Who pretty much seems to have given up on making it with us now anyhow.

Nunchucks
83. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

jackjones
84. jackjones Wrote: | 15.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

8) perryman chronic dellussiona comedianus syndrome ;)

thfcwaynethfc
85. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.08GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

my passing ability would be better.

i can pass the ball 5 yards, which is beyond zokora.

This hyperbole is silly. Zokora is prone to one or two poor or mis-hit passes per game, otherwise his passing is generally adequate.

1 or 2??????

he constantly puts players under pressure with poor balls.

even a 2 yard pass my heart is beating at a very high rate.

thfcwaynethfc
86. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.09GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Reply to KOJAC:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Longwell:

Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

thfcwaynethfc
87. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.11GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

if zokora was that good why has no1 bid for him?

im waiting on at least 5 above average midfielders who cant pass

vincenzo_spur
88. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 15.13GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

Yes, let's sell our joint top scorer and needlessly handicap ourselves in the UEFA Cup just because he's on a poor run of form lately. Savvy.

yes lets keep a player on over 40k a week just to play in the uefa cup.

what do you want to dthen, give him a free transfer?

Noone has bid for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KOJAC
89. KOJAC Wrote: | 15.14GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Longwell:

Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

i never understand that sort of thinking....how exactly do you plan for that...

when everyteam we have put out this season has ended up with us on the bottom of the league near enough.....

perrymann
90. perrymann Wrote: | 15.16GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

i can agree with that... but in a couple of weeks we could be out of the mess we find ourselves in with a chance of winning something very prestigious.

sell bent in the summer i say, if he still hasnt proven his worth- that way we wont have to pay over the odds for another player who...

8) Cambpell Profile--out of 10
Balance-5
Strength-3
Speed---8
Control 5
End Product-2
1 on 1's---4
Tackle(on+off pitch)-0

Why not play Obika, why give minutes to a Manure Reserve (at best)??? 8O

thfcwaynethfc
91. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.17GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Reply to Longwell:

Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

Yes, let's sell our joint top scorer and needlessly handicap ourselves in the UEFA Cup just because he's on a poor run of form lately. Savvy.

yes lets keep a player on over 40k a week just to play in the uefa cup.

what do you want to dthen, give him a free transfer?

Noone has bid for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if some1 bids for him sell him.

newcastle
stoke
blackburn (if they loose santa)

all looking a striker....

ToniMontana
92. ToniMontana Wrote: | 15.17GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

if zokora was that good why has no1 bid for him?

im waiting on at least 5 above average midfielders who cant pass

Why the current and previous managers think he is so important to the team?

You know better than them?

Racing2profit
93. Racing2profit Wrote: | 15.18GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

thfcwaynethfc
94. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.20GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

may be gutted, but its the truth whats the point in winning uefa cup/carling cup and going down.

we are stll only 3 points of bottom.

Nunchucks
95. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.20GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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he cant f*cking pass!!

Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

if zokora was that good why has no1 bid for him?

im waiting on at least 5 above average midfielders who cant pass

Why are you waiting on 5? I just gave you the best defensive midfielder in the world!

And, I don't think it's sensible to link validation of player ability to the number of bids they've allegedly attracted. This season excepted, I never read about Arteta, for example, being the subject of speculative bids. Does this mean he's rubbish? No. Does this mean there have been no queries made for him? No.

thfcwaynethfc
96. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.22GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

if zokora was that good why has no1 bid for him?

im waiting on at least 5 above average midfielders who cant pass

Why the current and previous managers think he is so important to the team?

You know better than them?

nope not saying that i do, football is about opinions, my personal opinion is that if you cant pass the ball then you shouldnt be playing, he has good qualities, such as work rate, he is adaptable position wise...however the ability not to pass the ball, outweighs his good points.

thfcwaynethfc
97. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.25GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Thankfully you're not the manager.

if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple as.

some1 please give me a worldclass or even an above average midfielder that cant pass?

Claude Makelele.

claude makelele can pass the ball, he plays simple short balls. zokora cant pass 5 yards.

Each of the conversational plates you're spinning verge on the ridiculous.

You should probably call it a day.

if zokora was that good why has no1 bid for him?

im waiting on at least 5 above average midfielders who cant pass

Why are you waiting on 5? I just gave you the best defensive midfielder in the world!

And, I don't think it's sensible to link validation of player ability to the number of bids they've allegedly attracted. This season excepted, I never read about Arteta, for example, being the...

I made that point about bids, beacuse some1 posted previously, that other fans love him and another post said that other teams want him.

Im waiting on 5 as if every1 rates zokora so much, they should be able to name good players who cant pass (like zokora) and still managed to play at high level.

makelele can pass the ball.

vincenzo_spur
98. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 15.31GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

i can agree with that... but in a couple of weeks we could be out of the mess we find ourselves in with a chance of winning something very prestigious.

sell bent in the summer i say, if he still hasnt proven his worth- that way we wont have to pay over the odds for another player who...

8) Cambpell Profile--out of 10
Balance-5
Strength-3
Speed---8
Control 5
End Product-2
1 on 1's---4
Tackle(on+off pitch)-0

Why not play Obika, why give minutes to a Manure Reserve (at best)??? 8O

thats a good idea... i hope he is registered

thfcwaynethfc
99. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.32GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

i can agree with that... but in a couple of weeks we could be out of the mess we find ourselves in with a chance of winning something very prestigious.

sell bent in the summer i say, if he still hasnt proven his worth- that way we wont have to pay over the odds for another player who...

8) Cambpell Profile--out of 10
Balance-5
Strength-3
Speed---8
Control 5
End Product-2
1 on 1's---4
Tackle(on+off pitch)-0

Why not play Obika, why give minutes to a Manure Reserve (at best)??? 8O

thats a good idea... i hope he is registered

he is registered.

Nunchucks
100. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.33GMT | Jan 29, 2009

There's a reason Makelele only ever played short passes.

But anyway, I'm not saying your wrong. But your reasoning is all fucked.

A+ for Effort.
D- for Attainment.

perrymann
101. perrymann Wrote: | 15.34GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) perryman chronic dellussiona comedianus syndrome ;)

8) Im telin Kwakspur + heal tel Davespur wen we meet at Kindergarthen, DEN YOUR IN THE POOPOOH!! ;)

HarryHotspur
102. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 15.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Is DAVESPURS Caps lock like a child lock, that he can't get off?

simianSpur
103. simianSpur Wrote: | 15.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Longwell:

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"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

We'd have an awfully thin squad if we got rid of players on that basis.

it would definitely be a lot thinner ;) ;) ;)

perrymann
104. perrymann Wrote: | 15.43GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Is DAVESPURS Caps lock like a child lock, that he can't get off?

8) A.D.D SYNDROME I'M AFRAID 8O

thfcwaynethfc
105. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.44GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Nunchucks:

There's a reason Makelele only ever played short passes.

But anyway, I'm not saying your wrong. But your reasoning is all fucked.

A+ for Effort.
D- for Attainment.

not really, im trying to say he gives it all but his end product very poor.

Longwell
106. Longwell Wrote: | 15.47GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

We'd have an awfully thin squad if we got rid of players on that basis.

it would definitely be a lot thinner ;) ;) ;)

Oh, zing!

jackjones
107. jackjones Wrote: | 15.47GMT | Jan 29, 2009

8) naptime or milkbreak,i'll be waiting for you ;)

Bruxie
108. Bruxie Wrote: | 15.51GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

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Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
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Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


why is everyone defending hudd, he is not good enough to make our starting 11 so why not sell him?

8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

And then what...throw a strop?

Raf_THFC
109. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 15.54GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

what and play campbell upfront on his own in the Wafer?

I think you should be the next man to take spurs forward

we dont need bent, simple as. there is differnet options, you can play campbell upfront with mod in behind. we wont play 4-4-2 away to shaktar anyway. plus if we sold bent we would bring in a replacement, who perhaps may not be cup tied.

the uefa cup is not a priority at the moment...

i can agree with that... but in a couple of weeks we could be out of the mess we find ourselves in with a chance of winning something very prestigious.

sell bent in the summer i say, if he still hasnt proven his worth- that way we wont have to pay over the odds for another player who...

8) Cambpell Profile--out of 10
Balance-5
Strength-3
Speed---8
Control 5
End Product-2
1 on 1's---4
Tackle(on+off pitch)-0

Why not play Obika, why give minutes to a Manure Reserve (at best)??? 8O

thats a good idea... i hope he is registered

he is registered.

Thought you can play anyone who's a homegrown talent on top of registered players.

Also, shouldn't we be able to register those players (like Rocha, Taraabt) at this point in the tournament.

perrymann
110. perrymann Wrote: | 15.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) naptime or milkbreak,i'll be waiting for you ;)

8) Are you a Lefty or Righty (Nipple wise) because I can play both sides, so its milkbreak then? :|

bumble
111. bumble Wrote: | 15.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to juergensdive:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

Bruxie
112. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.00GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to juergensdive:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

Quote of the day...
"You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today."

Neither have you by the sounds of it. You haven't got the skills you were endowed with?..classic.

Longwell
113. Longwell Wrote: | 16.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

"Also, shouldn't we be able to register those players (like Rocha, Taraabt) at this point in the tournament."

Yes, up to three new players may be added. Has to be done by Saturday, though.

Cudicini should be one of the three, although we might be able to sneak him in on the goalkeepers' exemption, given Gomes' injury and the departure of Cesar. Alnwick was not registered.

vincenzo_spur
114. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 16.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

J2S is another option in the uefa upfront i would have thought, plus Chimbonda, Willesden Palais, cudicini to be added.

Can we remove any players from the list if we wanted to add Taarabt?

BruceCastle
115. BruceCastle Wrote: | 16.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

you'll remember the 1976/77 season then. It was priority then too and we failed, but bounced back. He had some great games in the old 2nd div the following year. I'll never forget this game, my first at the Lane: LINK

perrymann
116. perrymann Wrote: | 16.05GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Bruxie:

Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

Quote of the day...
"You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today."

Neither have you by the sounds of it. You haven't got the skills you were endowed with?..classic.

8) Endowed, is that when Arry says "they ain't measuring up to my usual standard", or was it just a frosty morning at Cheshunt?? 8O

vincenzo_spur
117. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 16.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud achievements in our history. Winning the UEFA would blow the CC win last year out of the water!

Lets try and be a bit more positive collectively ok? We're turning into a bunch of Daily Mail readers... reactionary and negative.

It stops here.

Bruxie
118. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud...

Welcome to Wayne's world!

BruceCastle
119. BruceCastle Wrote: | 16.12GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Raf_THFC
120. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 16.15GMT | Jan 29, 2009

As a free agent, I think the window is irrelevant...

Bruxie
121. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.19GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

thfcwaynethfc
122. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.21GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud...

I never said it means nothing, i said at the present time it is not one of priorities. premiership survival is.

i put the carling cup ahead of it as the fact we are 1 game away from qualifying for it next year, in which the format changes so there wont be as many fixtures etc. plus hopefully we wont be in the situation we are in now.

Bruxie
123. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.22GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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As a free agent, I think the window is irrelevant...

Player use the Bosman to collect the transfer fee themselves - remember a certain centre back of ours?
He ain't going to come for free!

Raf_THFC
124. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 16.22GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Bruxie:

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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

As I intimated, clubs are allowed to bring in players outside the window for two reasons....

* If a player does not play for any club at the time, so is a free agent.

* If a club suffers an injury crisis - generally involving goalkeepers - they can bring in a new player on loan from another club.

thfcwaynethfc
125. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Bruxie:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Bruxie
126. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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As a free agent, I think the window is irrelevant...

Player use the Bosman to collect the transfer fee themselves - remember a certain centre back of ours?
He ain't going to come for free!

But you are right, sir, the window is not relevant.

BruceCastle
127. BruceCastle Wrote: | 16.24GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Raf_THFC:

Reply to Bruxie:
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Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

As I intimated, clubs are allowed to bring in players outside the window for two reasons....

* If a player does not play for any club at the time, so is a free agent.

* If a club suffers an injury crisis - generally involving goalkeepers - they can bring in a new...

Yes, but why allow other clubs who may be shopping elsewhere during the window to come and compete and drive up his wages. Play it out and make them keeping shopping until the window has closed.

Bruxie
128. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.25GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to Bruxie:
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Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

Raf_THFC
129. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 16.26GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Oh I agree - we need to get on with it, as I said a while back, even if he is unfit, he can be used as a sub while he regains fitness. He'll still be a massive plus for us (assuming his knee is not a problem any more)

Nunchucks
130. Nunchucks Wrote: | 16.27GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

If they don't want him on a free, why would a loan seem like a sexier deal?

thfcwaynethfc
131. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.27GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Bruxie:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Bruxie:
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Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

thfcwaynethfc
132. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.28GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

If they don't want him on a free, why would a loan seem like a sexier deal?

clubs dont want to risk the signing on fee + pay his wages, we can do that + loan him 2 a club for remainder of the season.

fatfish
133. fatfish Wrote: | 16.28GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

you'll remember the 1976/77 season then. It was priority then too and we failed, but bounced back. He had some great games in the old 2nd div the following year. I'll never forget this game, my first at the Lane: LINK

I was at that game too. A great season, but one that I never want to experience again. 0-0 draw last game of the season at The Dell to get promotion.

Two great full backs in those days, Jimmy Holmes on the left and the brilliant Terry Nalyor on the right, He was a right hard bastard.

BruceCastle
134. BruceCastle Wrote: | 16.32GMT | Jan 29, 2009

The holding role that Steve Perryman played, his leadership and his whole-of-park awareness, is exactly what we need now.

Longwell
135. Longwell Wrote: | 16.34GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

J2S is another option in the uefa upfront i would have thought, plus Chimbonda, Willesden Palais, cudicini to be added.

Can we remove any players from the list if we wanted to add Taarabt?

Yes, but we're only allowed three non-GK additions. There's plenty of space on the 25-man "A List" because Cesar and Barcham have left the club, and Hutton is out long term.

Nunchucks
136. Nunchucks Wrote: | 16.34GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
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Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

If they don't want him on a free, why would a loan seem like a sexier deal?

clubs dont want to risk the signing on fee + pay his wages, we can do that + loan him 2 a club for remainder of the season.

If they take him on a loan, they pay his wages. Why would we pay for another team to utilise our own player, when we could control and monitor his fitness in the reserves?

You honestly fascinate me.

Bruxie
137. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.38GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to Bruxie:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Bruxie:
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

thfcwaynethfc
138. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to Nunchucks:
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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

If they don't want him on a free, why would a loan seem like a sexier deal?

clubs dont want to risk the signing on fee + pay his wages, we can do that + loan him 2 a club for remainder of the season.

If they take him on a loan, they pay his wages. Why would we pay for another team to utilise our own player, when we could control and monitor his fitness in the reserves?

You honestly fascinate me.

reserve football is not the same as playing at a decent level, any pro will tell you that.

i want hime play constantly for the next 6 months (he wont be doing that with us)

then be redy for next season.

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139. Racing2profit Wrote: | 16.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

you'll remember the 1976/77 season then. It was priority then too and we failed, but bounced back. He had some great games in the old 2nd div the following year. I'll never forget this game, my first at the Lane: LINK

Thanks Bruce Castle for that link it brought back great memmories. I even remember as a young lad going to the 1960 Cup Final and seeing history being made. Old I may be but doddery i'm not !!

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140. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.40GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

If they don't want him on a free, why would a loan seem like a sexier deal?

clubs dont want to risk the signing on fee + pay his wages, we can do that + loan him 2 a club for remainder of the season.

If they take him on a loan, they pay his wages. Why would we pay for another team to utilise our own player, when we could control and monitor his fitness in the reserves?

You honestly fascinate me.

Wayne's world.

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141. perrymann Wrote: | 16.40GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Trying to find out info on Appiah...

it seems he played the full 90 minutes in a 4-4 draw. Set up the third goal and played well.

still no news officially though and the way Harry set the tone yesterday i had the impression he's already decided not to bother... "he's...

Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

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142. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Why wouldn't they just wait and announce the Appiah decision until the very end of the transfer window?

Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

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143. perrymann Wrote: | 16.52GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Seems sensible to me...if he has no other offers.
Could be penny pinching brinksmanship over wages and signing on fee - which as a Bosman could run to...a lot!
From what I read he is seriously unfit even after a month training with 'Spurs. Been out a long, long time.

know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

8) For us +no signing fee.If others had an interest he would b there.If he is descent Arry will sign him. ;)

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144. Bruxie Wrote: | 16.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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know this may sound silly, could we not sign him on a 2 year contract, then loan him out for rest of this season so he gets his fitness back?

Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

8) For us +no signing fee.If others had an interest he would b there.If he is descent Arry will sign him. ;)

There has to be a signing on fee. He'll sit it out getting fitter until offered a trial elsewhere.
We've already done him a favour getting him "nearly fit".
Agree that if he's good he'll be signed. Getting H to watch the reserves might be the problem.

Trembly
145. Trembly Wrote: | 17.01GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

my passing ability would be better.

i can pass the ball 5 yards, which is beyond zokora.

wayne - you seem to miss the point that he does actually know how to pass the ball and once in a while does it well, as demonstrated to the build up to one of our recent goals. For the trillionth time, will you please stop exaggerating.

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146. Trembly Wrote: | 17.03GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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8) Gone from Bent/Bently Derangement Syndrome 2 The Hudd in under 2 weeks has got 2 b a record.My advice 2 u is 2 lay off the Suckora Sour Mash r u will b seeing a PSB in your room. 8O

there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

Better not leave him alone in a room with Thudd and a hotdog then...

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147. Trembly Wrote: | 17.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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there needs to be a big clearout as players on big wages are not good enough...

bent is 1, hudd (he will not get any better, than he is) is another.

bently attitude and work rate has improved this last few weeks so deserves more time.

Yet you would've had him shipped out just a few weeks ago, no?

And Dawson before him.

And Gomes before him.

my exact words when gomes was getting criticised in october time was give him to jan before making a decision.

i have never said to sell dawson, i have maintained he is a squad player.

a few weeks ago i would have shipped bently out because his attitude was stinking, still...

Fair enough, but it seems arbitrary and harsh to give some players and not others the chance to turn things around.

Seems like we just always need at least one whipping boy when things aren't going well. Gomes, Dawson, Bent, Zokora, Huddlestone, Bentley. They've all had their time...

hudd is different than bently/gomes he has had a hell of a long time to impress here, everyone keeps saying the sames things about him, bottom line if were to get a decent fee for him, get rid.

Zokora, dont rate at all, if you cant pass the ball you cant play football, simple. i dont...

So, what you're saying is...you're better than Zokora?

He's obviously doing something 36,000 pairs of eyes can't work out, because managers seem to think he is mustard.

Better not leave him alone in a room with Thudd and a hotdog then...

that came out all wrong...mustard/toms penchant for sauce...

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148. Trembly Wrote: | 17.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Campbell = Bent - finishing ability


im not saying campbell is better than bent, im saying bent would not be missed apart from the uefa cup. i do believe we could do ok without him.

santa cruz - better than bent

alternatives

saviola (loan)
Balotelli (loan)

could sell...

Yes, let's sell our joint top scorer and needlessly handicap ourselves in the UEFA Cup just because he's on a poor run of form lately. Savvy.

yes lets keep a player on over 40k a week just to play in the uefa cup.

Does it really matter that he's on that much at the moment? If we need cover and he can do the job to keep us up then its more than worth it. Not his fault he was offered that contract after scoring a hatful for Charlton.

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149. chingfordyid99 Wrote: | 17.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

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150. perrymann Wrote: | 17.08GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Yep, sounds silly. :?

if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

8) For us +no signing fee.If others had an interest he would b there.If he is descent Arry will sign him. ;)

There has to be a signing on fee. He'll sit it out getting fitter until offered a trial elsewhere.
We've already done him a favour getting him "nearly fit".
Agree that if he's good he'll be signed. Getting H to watch the reserves might be the problem.

8) They know by now,you will probably tomorrow,nominal sign on fee,no way will he sit at the club he would have to b insured etc. ;)

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151. steve1987 Wrote: | 17.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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campbell can fack off back up north...
crazy loan moves....rather keep bent

i like the uefa cup....it's very enjoyable...we should try and win every game we play....

i believe by selling bent we would have the same chance of winning the uefa cup than keeping him.

harry might swap bent from what i've been reading....but we don't need to sell a striker until we got one in....we need four so called frontmen at all times...IMO

zokora is a good squad man no need to sell him

i thought you didn't care about the uefa cup

the main priority is staying up

the next is carling cup

3rd is uefa cup

How gutted am I? to be a spurs fan for 50yrs to see that as the priotity

you'll remember the 1976/77 season then. It was priority then too and we failed, but bounced back. He had some great games in the old 2nd div the following year. I'll never forget this game, my first at the Lane: ..." rel="nofollow">LINK

Me too. Paxton end' 50p boys entrance. I think 6 goals went in my end. Still have the program somewhere.

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152. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 17.14GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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i can't believe some of you still won't get over the zokora-bashing, despite even noting that all of our managers (you can find individual quotes for each of 'Arry, Wendy and BMJ singing his praises) believe(d) he is a top player. Without zokora covering the ground with the effort and intelligence...

Wayne is better than him, so I've been led to believe. And he's easier to make chants for.

my passing ability would be better.

i can pass the ball 5 yards, which is beyond zokora.

wayne - you seem to miss the point that he does actually know how to pass the ball and once in a while does it well, as demonstrated to the build up to one of our recent goals. For the trillionth time, will you please stop exaggerating.

im not exagerating, next match watch him, just focus on when he gets the ball, he will either give the ball away, he will pass the ball to a team mate, however the weight of the pass puts the player under pressure or the accuracry of the pass puts the player under pressure....only a handfull of passes will actually be an accurate pass.

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153. steve1987 Wrote: | 17.17GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

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154. Bruxie Wrote: | 17.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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if we sign him now, he wont be match fit too play for us anyway...so unless he play regular football he wont get his match fitness back.

He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

8) For us +no signing fee.If others had an interest he would b there.If he is descent Arry will sign him. ;)

There has to be a signing on fee. He'll sit it out getting fitter until offered a trial elsewhere.
We've already done him a favour getting him "nearly fit".
Agree that if he's good he'll be signed. Getting H to watch the reserves might be the problem.

8) They know by now,you will probably tomorrow,nominal sign on fee,no way will he sit at the club he would have to b insured etc. ;)

Players don't do nominal. He knows that whoever signs him will be able to sell him at a profit (if he plays well). Could be good business.
Insurance...sorry that's a red herring. If we cannot afford insurance we are more skint than Iceland and Spam.

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155. weejp Wrote: | 17.32GMT | Jan 29, 2009

(YAWN)

Bit boring on here today.

Must go an' put "finger up bum" (said with strong yorkshire accent for added effect).

Seriously hope some footballer strangles a rent-boy or some such tomfoolery overnight, just for light relief and something to laugh at.

It'd give us all something to smile about.

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156. Bruxie Wrote: | 17.33GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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(YAWN)

Bit boring on here today.

Must go an' put "finger up bum" (said with strong yorkshire accent for added effect).

Seriously hope some footballer strangles a rent-boy or some such tomfoolery overnight, just for light relief and something to laugh...

Thanks for the contribution...made my day.

weejp
157. weejp Wrote: | 17.35GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Dunno why I posted that.

Abject boredom just got the better of me I suppose.

Trembly
158. Trembly Wrote: | 17.35GMT | Jan 29, 2009

where is Jamiespurs??? I want to know his thoughts on Arry calling Les 'fantastic' today. Is he hiding because Daws has upped his game?

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159. weejp Wrote: | 17.37GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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(YAWN)

Bit boring on here today.

Must go an' put "finger up bum" (said with strong yorkshire accent for added effect).

Seriously hope some footballer strangles a rent-boy or some such tomfoolery overnight, just for light relief and something to laugh...

Thanks for the contribution...made my day.

You're welcome, princess.

#Said whilst striking famous Fonzy pose#

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160. Raf_THFC Wrote: | 17.38GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

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161. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 17.40GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

Do tell us more.... In cards, these contribute to 'tells'?

Yep, exactly, just like a 'tell'.. except you have to ignore the twitches as they tell you nothing! It's the breaking of eye contact and where he looks... he looks down and left a lot - this is a sign of accessing an internal dialogue 'tape loops' - like 'done it again!', 'told you so', 'should've known better!' and is usually seen when under stress or high excitement.
Down and right is accessing feelings/emotions, he does that a fair bit too.

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162. steve1987 Wrote: | 17.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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where is Jamiespurs??? I want to know his thoughts on Arry calling Les 'fantastic' today. Is he hiding because Daws has upped his game?

HH has been barred at his work place. Good to see Daw's has upped his game though. Central defenders seem to improve with age. Let's hope this is the case here. Compare to some of the real dodgy centre halves we've had in the past. John Lacey anyone?

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163. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 17.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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"Fulham are set to bid £2.5m for Leeds' £8m-rated Fabian Delph but Tottenham's Tom Huddlestone could emerge as a more realistic option."

They're welcome!!!

no they're fucking not.

Dawson was apaprently for the scrap heap not long ago.


Agree to disagree.

Dawson always had potential, I just don't see it in Hudd, which is a shame cos I actually like him.

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164. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 17.43GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Crikey, keep finding we're disagreeing here DV! I don't really rate Bent nor Hudd...

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165. steve1987 Wrote: | 17.44GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Yep, I was at the Dell - Southampton hit the post. Just imagine what had happened if that had gone in. No Ardiles and Villa.............

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166. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 17.45GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I love the way the Redknapps talk - Jamie has a number of 'arryisms too - look out for them!

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167. steve1987 Wrote: | 17.46GMT | Jan 29, 2009

"arryism" isn't that a brain problem?

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He can get match fit in the reserves and on the bench.
In order to loan him out we have to pay for him - signing on fee (1M) - then we have to pay wages and ask the loaning club to contribute. Now why would we contemplate that?

8) Pay as u play? 8O

For us...or the loaning club? ;)

With us - fine. Bit of an incentive!

8) For us +no signing fee.If others had an interest he would b there.If he is descent Arry will sign him. ;)

There has to be a signing on fee. He'll sit it out getting fitter until offered a trial elsewhere.
We've already done him a favour getting him "nearly fit".
Agree that if he's good he'll be signed. Getting H to watch the reserves might be the problem.

8) They know by now,you will probably tomorrow,nominal sign on fee,no way will he sit at the club he would have to b insured etc. ;)

Players don't do nominal. He knows that whoever signs him will be able to sell him at a profit (if he plays well). Could be good business.
Insurance...sorry that's a red herring. If we cannot afford insurance we are more skint than Iceland and Spam.

8) "if he plays well"u have said it all.Do u know if he is a free agent,?u expect the club 2 risk an up front payment when the player could breakdown at anytime,i would say 2 end of season with the club having an option,no expences r trivial 2 a well run club.Who would buy King? 8O

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169. Bruxie Wrote: | 17.52GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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(YAWN)

Bit boring on here today.

Must go an' put "finger up bum" (said with strong yorkshire accent for added effect).

Seriously hope some footballer strangles a rent-boy or some such tomfoolery overnight, just for light relief and something to laugh...

Thanks for the contribution...made my day.

You're welcome, princess.

#Said whilst striking famous Fonzy pose#

I know when I'm beaten!

LINK

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170. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 17.56GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

My blurb does sound mixed up, I'll give you that (was on a quick lunch break!) I have a foreign language and speech therapy degree... so I do alright... ;)
Thanks for the clarification.

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171. Nick_The_Greek Wrote: | 17.57GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I love the way the Redknapps talk - Jamie has a number of 'arryisms too - look out for them!

Fella`s like Harry are 10 a penny in London,I left London 12 years ago and the biggest thing you miss is the banter

BruceCastle
172. BruceCastle Wrote: | 17.59GMT | Jan 29, 2009

LINK+prog.jpg

steve1987
173. steve1987 Wrote: | 18.04GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

steve1987
174. steve1987 Wrote: | 18.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

My first match was at h*ghbury 74/75 season. Went with an Ar5ena1 fan. 2-0 to us - John Duncan. Stood in the North bank - a bit rough in those days, I was 12!

Carlos_Kickball
175. Carlos_Kickball Wrote: | 18.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Any news if this Santa Cruz bid is genuine or not? IF it is, how are we getting on? If it isn't are we just trying to raise the price, and then drop out (similar to the Palacios / Bellamy thing)?

BruceCastle
176. BruceCastle Wrote: | 18.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

steve1987
177. steve1987 Wrote: | 18.13GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to steve1987:
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LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

BruceCastle
178. BruceCastle Wrote: | 18.20GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:

LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

steve1987
179. steve1987 Wrote: | 18.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:

LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
180. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 18.23GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Nick_The_Greek:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I love the way the Redknapps talk - Jamie has a number of 'arryisms too - look out for them!

Fella`s like Harry are 10 a penny in London,I left London 12 years ago and the biggest thing you miss is the banter

Yeah, must admit that when I'm down for a game, love listening the accent, the dialect and the banter.

Mind you, live near Liverpool now and they're not bad for banter.

steve1987
181. steve1987 Wrote: | 18.24GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I love the way the Redknapps talk - Jamie has a number of 'arryisms too - look out for them!

Fella`s like Harry are 10 a penny in London,I left London 12 years ago and the biggest thing you miss is the banter

Yeah, must admit that when I'm down for a game, love listening the accent, the dialect and the banter.

Mind you, live near Liverpool now and they're not bad for banter.

What Spanglish?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
182. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 18.25GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:

LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

I remember that crap in the streets and that was in Yorkshire!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
183. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 18.25GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I love the way the Redknapps talk - Jamie has a number of 'arryisms too - look out for them!

Fella`s like Harry are 10 a penny in London,I left London 12 years ago and the biggest thing you miss is the banter

Yeah, must admit that when I'm down for a game, love listening the accent, the dialect and the banter.

Mind you, live near Liverpool now and they're not bad for banter.

What Spanglish?

=D =D =D

onedavemackay
184. onedavemackay Wrote: | 19.12GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

Reply to bumble:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

My blurb does sound mixed up, I'll give you that (was on a quick lunch break!) I have a foreign language and speech therapy degree... so I do alright... ;)
Thanks for the clarification.

Could someone translate all this for us 'umble cockneys what never got a proper edyacation and are no better than what we oughta be ?

BruceCastle
185. BruceCastle Wrote: | 19.14GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:
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Reply to BruceCastle:

LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

My grandparents lives 10 min from the lane. From 1975-1983 I lived in Billericay

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
186. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote: | 19.20GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to onedavemackay:

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to bumble:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

My blurb does sound mixed up, I'll give you that (was on a quick lunch break!) I have a foreign language and speech therapy degree... so I do alright... ;)
Thanks for the clarification.

Could someone translate all this for us 'umble cockneys what never got a proper edyacation and are no better than what we oughta be ?

Nah, education isn't as valuable as being naturally smart... Many an 'umble cockernee is naturally smart...

steve1987
187. steve1987 Wrote: | 19.27GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:
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Reply to BruceCastle:
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LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

My grandparents lives 10 min from the lane. From 1975-1983 I lived in Billericay

Not too far from me- Stanford-le hope. Been living in Norfolk for seven years now, I couldn't go back to Essex. Where are you now?

BruceCastle
188. BruceCastle Wrote: | 19.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I am in Washington, DC now but go back often about once a month. I'll be at the Lane for whrn we beat Ar5ena1 :D

steve1987
189. steve1987 Wrote: | 19.50GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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I am in Washington, DC now but go back often about once a month. I'll be at the Lane for whrn we beat Ar5ena1 :D

Top man..............This blog has fired my enthusiasm again. I keep threatening to take my 7 year old to a game. We would have gone to the pre season game at Norwich but it coincided with our holiday.

steve1987
190. steve1987 Wrote: | 19.53GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I know this a football blog and not friends Reunited but it would be interesting to know where the bloggers come from.

BruceCastle
191. BruceCastle Wrote: | 20.09GMT | Jan 29, 2009

=D you need a photo: LINK

KOJAC
192. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.10GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud...

I never said it means nothing, i said at the present time it is not one of priorities. premiership survival is.

i put the carling cup ahead of it as the fact we are 1 game away from qualifying for it next year, in which the format changes so there wont be as many fixtures etc. plus...

why would you want less fixtures....?.....i want more

Trembly
193. Trembly Wrote: | 20.21GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to KOJAC:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to vincenzo_spur:

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud...

I never said it means nothing, i said at the present time it is not one of priorities. premiership survival is.

i put the carling cup ahead of it as the fact we are 1 game away from qualifying for it next year, in which the format changes so there wont be as many fixtures etc. plus...

why would you want less fixtures....?.....i want more

I'm with you on that Koj. Juggling the Prem with Carlin, FackAll, Champs League, WorldClub, and SuperCup...dreamland if that ever happens in my lifetime.

YidArmy
194. YidArmy Wrote: | 20.26GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

I know this a football blog and not friends Reunited but it would be interesting to know where the bloggers come from.

Im from Northampton thanks Cilla.

munso
195. munso Wrote: | 20.29GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to steve1987:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to BruceCastle:

LINK+prog.jpg

Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and brother. Heading back to Dawlish Road, we got caught up in some greif outside, ended up over a wall and in someones back garden!
Great start for a little nipper like myself!

Third game was the Chelsea relegation 'scrap' in more ways than one! 'Bye Bye Chelsea' and all that! I saw a picture of the fighting on the pitch that day years later, Tartan everywhere, I thought it was a picture of a Scotland game!

I'm welling up thinking about it!

KOJAC
196. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.31GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Trembly:

Reply to KOJAC:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to vincenzo_spur:

On another note...

Enough of the UEFA hating... people are on the one hand asking if we get in next season through the CC, and at the same time saying that it means nothing.

Look at what it meant to Rangers and Zenit fans last season... its also one of the most proud...

I never said it means nothing, i said at the present time it is not one of priorities. premiership survival is.

i put the carling cup ahead of it as the fact we are 1 game away from qualifying for it next year, in which the format changes so there wont be as many fixtures etc. plus...

why would you want less fixtures....?.....i want more

I'm with you on that Koj. Juggling the Prem with Carlin, FackAll, Champs League, WorldClub, and SuperCup...dreamland if that ever happens in my lifetime.

thats right....i don't like getting angry...but people who say they want less games and priority make me angry.....two games a week with england thrown in.....i'm a football fan...FFS

i know i'm sad..... :\ ...but just don't care... 8)

KOJAC
197. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.35GMT | Jan 29, 2009

my mum has two old dachshunds.....

i can send you some white dogshit next summer if you want....plenty in her garden after while....

vincenzo_spur
198. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 20.36GMT | Jan 29, 2009

more the better...

i hate when we dont play for a week... in fact friendly weeks kill me. i love england but spurs comes first

KOJAC
199. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

more the better...

i hate when we dont play for a week... in fact friendly weeks kill me. i love england but spurs comes first

tottenham and england get the same love from me....

yiddo4ever
200. yiddo4ever Wrote: | 20.39GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Please tell me these reports of us trying to bring keane back are untrue! He left us in the sh@te to further his own career and fill his bank account. How can we seriously be expected to get behind him if he comes back? 'sorry it didnt work out keane, ur a yiddo really, yes u are' i dont think so. And Defoe, please learn to stay onside and not fall over as much!

SeattleSpursGuy
201. SeattleSpursGuy Wrote: | 20.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to Raf_THFC:

Reply to steve1987:
Reply to chingfordyid99:

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

mildly curious, as Ive paid little attention to what he's done at Pool since it became obvious Rafa doesn't rate him, but would Bob be eligible to play for us in UEFA?

vincenzo_spur
202. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 20.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

in competitive games i agree... but england friendlies dont do it for me- even if i watch every one of them...

saying that- spurs title or england world cup?

I know the whole nation gets involved and you only have to think back to euro 96 and how amazing the atmosphere was to know that would be an amazing summer... but winning the league. i think id have to go with that for pure emotion

onedavemackay
203. onedavemackay Wrote: | 20.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

Reply to onedavemackay:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Reply to bumble:
Reply to juergensdive:
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:

He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

My blurb does sound mixed up, I'll give you that (was on a quick lunch break!) I have a foreign language and speech therapy degree... so I do alright... ;)
Thanks for the clarification.

Could someone translate all this for us 'umble cockneys what never got a proper edyacation and are no better than what we oughta be ?

Nah, education isn't as valuable as being naturally smart... Many an 'umble cockernee is naturally smart...

Gawd luv us

vincenzo_spur
204. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 20.42GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to SeattleSpursGuy:

Reply to Raf_THFC:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to chingfordyid99:

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

mildly curious, as Ive paid little attention to what he's done at Pool since it became obvious Rafa doesn't rate him, but would Bob be eligible to play for us in UEFA?

no... he played in the champions league

KOJAC
205. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.44GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

in competitive games i agree... but england friendlies dont do it for me- even if i watch every one of them...

saying that- spurs title or england world cup?

I know the whole nation gets involved and you only have to think back to euro 96 and how amazing the atmosphere...

why does it have to be one or the other....don't beat yourself....have both

KOJAC
206. KOJAC Wrote: | 20.49GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to SeattleSpursGuy:

Reply to Raf_THFC:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to chingfordyid99:

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

mildly curious, as Ive paid little attention to what he's done at Pool since it became obvious Rafa doesn't rate him, but would Bob be eligible to play for us in UEFA?

i'm not sure but don't see why you can't as they are different competitions...

on keane i think we actually did good business in getting £19m for him.....

let's be honest he was a good player for us...but i'm not sure really need him anymore....let's buy someone new with the cash....someone 6'2 or over...

unles he goes on SSN and publically apologises to all yids and says he made a mistake and that everything is his fault....

SeattleSpursGuy
207. SeattleSpursGuy Wrote: | 20.49GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

Reply to SeattleSpursGuy:
Reply to Raf_THFC:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to chingfordyid99:

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

mildly curious, as Ive paid little attention to what he's done at Pool since it became obvious Rafa doesn't rate him, but would Bob be eligible to play for us in UEFA?

no... he played in the champions league

Thanks, didn't want him back anyway, but that added in makes this an exercise in "why bother"

Trembly
208. Trembly Wrote: | 20.52GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

in competitive games i agree... but england friendlies dont do it for me- even if i watch every one of them...

saying that- spurs title or england world cup?

I know the whole nation gets involved and you only have to think back to euro 96 and how amazing the atmosphere...

Winning the league of course! However a Spurs version of how the spammers did it might come close (but can you imagine JJ, Daws, Azza, Ledders, Woody, Bentley, Bent, O'Hara all in a world cup winning team?

Trembly
209. Trembly Wrote: | 20.56GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Reply to KOJAC:

Reply to SeattleSpursGuy:
Reply to Raf_THFC:
Reply to steve1987:
Reply to chingfordyid99:

SSN Just said we have asked liverpool if keane is avilable 8O

Yep, Pav needs his boots cleaning............

This is obviously some ploy to destabilise Liverpool, get some revenge, and add salt into their fading title challenge. I hope.

mildly curious, as Ive paid little attention to what he's done at Pool since it became obvious Rafa doesn't rate him, but would Bob be eligible to play for us in UEFA?

i'm not sure but don't see why you can't as they are different competitions...

on keane i think we actually did good business in getting £19m for him.....

let's be honest he was a good player for us...but i'm not sure really need him anymore....let's buy someone new...

re keane, there were better players available for the money last summer and there still is now. £19/20m for someone his age was good business.

marcoerob
210. marcoerob Wrote: | 21.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

Are you good at playing videogames?
Like every community now also ole ole has a fun part!
My friend has gfloriano included this game LINK simple but fun, when you will have a free moment,please you try to do a “game” and you will write after as a comment to post the score that you will be able to make thanks, Roberto.

steve1987
211. steve1987 Wrote: | 21.07GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

chigwellspur
212. chigwellspur Wrote: | 21.08GMT | Jan 29, 2009

where would modric and keane fit in to the same team? don't get me wrong i love keane, always have always will what ever team he plays for, but i'm loveing the blossoming combination of modric, pav and jd.

steve1987
213. steve1987 Wrote: | 21.17GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Cool - I don't think I managed to get a prog for that game. Seems a long time ago and makes me feel old. I was 15.

yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

Lost me for a moment - it was Bristol Rovers........

KOJAC
214. KOJAC Wrote: | 21.21GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Are you good at playing videogames?
Like every community now also ole ole has a fun part!
My friend has gfloriano included this game LINK simple but fun, when you will have a free moment,please you try to do a “game” and you...

when i click on someones profile.....i do not want to see...good player though he is....a fabregas spanish mug looking back at me...coys

KOJAC
215. KOJAC Wrote: | 21.26GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

Lost me for a moment - it was Bristol Rovers........

surprise surprise steve1987....i am that coach driver that used to drive you and your essex chums to game....a big gasp from the oleole crowd....

oh and please take your seven yr old to a tottenham game soon....if you can afford it of course.....food and energy come first....

bumble
216. bumble Wrote: | 21.27GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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He has interesting 'pragmatics' (social communication skills) issues in conversations and interviews - lack of eye contact with the questioner, fidgeting, filler words ('you know'), facial expressions that belie the content of the language...

You know footballers rarely have the educational skills that most are endowed with, even today. So communicating with millions, about a passionate subject like football must be a bit of a trial. 'Arry probably left school at 15, or perhaps earlier if he was training with a club. Even SKY...

I'm not sure whether you understand the concept of pragmatic inference- If you mean he exploits language and non-verbal techniques to mean something he hasn't literally said, then he's a master...his education has nothing to do with it- pragmatics is concerned with discourse implicature.

My blurb does sound mixed up, I'll give you that (was on a quick lunch break!) I have a foreign language and speech therapy degree... so I do alright... ;)
Thanks for the clarification.

Could someone translate all this for us 'umble cockneys what never got a proper edyacation and are no better than what we oughta be ?

Nah, education isn't as valuable as being naturally smart... Many an 'umble cockernee is naturally smart...

Gawd luv us

A cute hoor as we say across the pond 8)

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217. BruceCastle Wrote: | 21.28GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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yes 15p would have been better spent on a couple of curly wurlies or 10 Regal, depending on how hard you were.

I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

Lost me for a moment - it was Bristol Rovers........

A pair of Bristols...will tend distract attention.

BruceCastle
218. BruceCastle Wrote: | 21.37GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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I think I did both. In those days you could say the "fags are for me dad."

Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

Lost me for a moment - it was Bristol Rovers........

surprise surprise steve1987....i am that coach driver that used to drive you and your essex chums to game....a big gasp from the oleole crowd....

oh and please take your seven yr old to a tottenham game soon....if you can afford it of course.....food and energy come first....

Kojak's from Wickford? It looked a lot more like New York on my telly, Telly. ;)

KOJAC
219. KOJAC Wrote: | 21.41GMT | Jan 29, 2009

there are quite a few avatars from canada,usa and aussieland aren't there.....the inernet a real marvel innit....

i've seen on someones blog somwhere that they had a world map with those airplane routes showing where posts had flown in from....sort of....no names of course....boring but quite good to see though...i'm a nerd like that....

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220. steve1987 Wrote: | 21.44GMT | Jan 29, 2009

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Ah, those were the days....dog ends, litter and white dog shit lining every street.

Yes Indeed, sounds like you are the same vintage as me. Are you a Tottenham lad? I'm from Essex but used to get the coach up for the home games.

Hmm...I used to get the "Harris coaches" coach up from Basildon in the late seventies / early eighties.

Missed the Bristol City game, can't remember why, went to most home games then.

First match about 1974 Man Utd 1-1 under the Paxton / East floodlight with my dad and...

Yes, that was it for me Harris coaches from Stanford..........

Lost me for a moment - it was Bristol Rovers........

surprise surprise steve1987....i am that coach driver that used to drive you and your essex chums to game....a big gasp from the oleole crowd....

oh and please take your seven yr old to a tottenham game soon....if you can afford it of course.....food and energy come first....

Kojak's from Wickford? It looked a lot more like New York on my telly, Telly. ;)

Never liked Wickford full of .............bald headed c*nts!

BruceCastle
221. BruceCastle Wrote: | 21.47GMT | Jan 29, 2009

and aging nudists

yiddo
222. yiddo Wrote: | 21.48GMT | Jan 29, 2009

I reckon the gooners need to have a closer look at there manager before they want to start taking digs at Harry. Championship winning team have a laugh!