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Real Madrid 2-0 Getafe | Higuain Beats Getafe Again

Sunday, 01 November 09, 06:11 AM · Comments (114)

Higuain vs Getafe

In addition to being a journalist and the Realmadrid blogger, I'm also a life hacker. I optimize everything and love to do experiments. If you don't do the same, life will be just darn difficult and boring.

Pellegrini seems to be similar, at least last night. Benching Raul, starting with Benzema and Higuain and playing Arbeloa on the left was an experiment and I loved that. As a matter of fact, I had been demanding that we try Arbeloa on the left and I think he did a good job. He was more solid than Marcelo which is not strange considering that Marcelo is attack-minded.

The question is, however, can Arbeloa perform better than that in the left-back position and most importantly does he like playing there? This is very important. The last thing you want to do is to play a player in a position he doesn't like. It happened to me, and it happens to many, and it is bad for all parties.

Many fans are claiming that the team is much more better without Guti and Raul; it is the same in fact. We still don't have style, but when you exclude Guti and Raul (when they are under-performing) and play in-form players (like Higuain and Lass) or vice versa, the team is better. That's common sense.

I know how the captain felt last night. He always wants to play. Who doesn't, and he was reacting to the game from the bench, he was looking everywhere, and in his head -- he wished he was there. I liked that, but sorry it was Higuain's turn.

Albiol was undeservedly sent off. He should have been booked instead and I think many of you agree. He complicated the game for us, but we managed to win. You see, If you have that spirit, nothing will get you down.

Ramos moved to the center-back position with Pepe while Arbeloa took on the right-back position and Marcelo was back in his left-back area. 

This change meant that we were not able to attack along the flanks that much, because we were minus a winger, but that wasn't a big difference anyway. Getafe were organized and hard to break, the only thing you can do against them is to play with one touch football, accurate passing and great finishing. Another way is through counter-attacks, but they were really careful. They were not brave enough especially before we scored.

Higuain and Benzema still don't understand each other and that's totally normal, they need more time together, but they DID show some compatibility. What Higuain can't do, Benzema can and they can both set up and assist each other.

Benzema assisted Higuain's second goal, while the Argentine scored his first off a Marcelo cross. Beautiful goals, If you ask me.

The important things for us were:

  • Get the three points and continue undefeated at home.
  • Experiment with Arbeloa on the left and Higuain partnering up Benzema upfront.
  • Recover some of our spirit following the Alcorcon game and we succeeded at that. We won with 10 men. 

This win will undeniably allow the team to breath a little bit, and the fact that Barcelona screwed up last night (Pique scored an own goal in the injury time to help Osasuna get a 1-1 home draw) means the Spanish press will be busy elsewhere (not that the draw was a huge setback for Barca but we are only 1 point behind now)

Next is Milan and at the same time of writing this, I'm also watching Arrigo Sacchi on Sky who has said something interesting. He said If Milan play collectively, it will be hard for Real to win. If we compare each of our players to theirs, we have the upper-hand, but they do play well as a team.

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114 Madridistas have commented on "Real Madrid 2-0 Getafe | Higuain Beats Getafe Again" · Add yours

Adambader
1. Adambader Wrote: | 13.25GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Real's squad list for CL is out. No Guti :)
LINK

W335Y09
2. W335Y09 Wrote: | 14.12GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Adambader:

Real's squad list for CL is out. No Guti :)
LINK

yasss finally guti gets what he deserves! he thinks he can run things..WELL DONE pellegrini

W335Y09
3. W335Y09 Wrote: | 14.13GMT | Nov 1, 2009

i hope we got for benzema and higuain against milan cuz there back four is not thta quick which makes it a advantage for higuain and benzema who are both quicker then raul plus its a away game you might to play on the counter alot we cant counter with raul

W335Y09
4. W335Y09 Wrote: | 14.13GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

i hope we got for benzema and higuain against milan cuz there back four is not thta quick which makes it a advantage for higuain and benzema who are both quicker then raul plus its a away game you might to play on the counter alot we cant counter with raul

go for**

MadridistAli
5. MadridistAli Wrote: | 14.48GMT | Nov 1, 2009

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

Adambader
6. Adambader Wrote: | 14.54GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Caracoleo
7. Caracoleo Wrote: | 15.06GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

So what should be the punishment for Guti then? A slap on the wrist? Please!

It's a about time players learned to conduct themselves as professional athletes.

This means:

1) No parties, hangovers, vida loca etc...

2) On time for training every day.

3) maximum commitment during training sessions.

4) Proper conduct on field and outside training hours.

5) Proper respect given to ALL Real Madrid staff and supporters.

I am glad Guti has been sanctioned. He suffered under Juande for a reason. Pellegrini is also seeing that this guy hasn't got an ounce of professionalism in him.

He doesn't deserve to wear the shirt.

Madrid4Life
8. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 15.45GMT | Nov 1, 2009

lol adam thats the most contradicting sentence you've ever written :P

" Many fans are claiming that the team is much more better without Guti and Raul; it is the same in fact. We still don't have style, but when you exclude Guti and Raul (when they are under-performing) and play in-form players (like Higuain and Lass) or vice versa, the team is better. That's common sense. "


I'm really worried about the Milan game. We should play defensively and rely on counterattacks.

Lets hope Kaka doesn't become overwhelmed by the san siro and lose his touch. I know for sure that he will recieve a very very bad welcome. I also heard of a group of people who are planning on making a big Dollar bill picture with Kaka in it saying "In God I trust??"

If Kaka can't handle it then I suggest benching him and giving someone else a chance.

My ideal formation for this game is a defensive one. here goes

Cassillas

Ramos Pepe Albiol Arbeloa

Lass Mamadou
Alonso

Kaka Drenthe

Higuan/Benz

Madrid4Life
9. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 15.46GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

lol adam thats the most contradicting sentence you've ever written :P

" Many fans are claiming that the team is much more better without Guti and Raul; it is the same in fact. We still don't have style, but when you exclude Guti and Raul (when they are under-performing) and play in-form...

Or maybe replace Mamadou with Gago.

Alonso and Kaka will be fierce on the counterattack. 1 Being a very accurate passer the other a very fast runner.

ludwig Hasbauer
10. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 15.58GMT | Nov 1, 2009

if you like it or not, the team will be:

casillas
ramos pepe albiol arbeloa
lass alonso
kaka marcelo
raul benzema

with higuain coming off the bench! I hope and think he will decide the match when he comes in!

ludwig Hasbauer
11. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 16.03GMT | Nov 1, 2009

we don't know what guti did, but we know what pelle did with riquelme, and afterwards villareal got a kickstart! so sometimes it's good when these kind of things happen..I think guti is useless on the pitch since he only plays well in unimportant matches..he was not playing in any of the three cl finals in which he was on the team..

TheAngelOfMadrid
12. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 16.11GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

if you like it or not, the team will be:

casillas
ramos pepe albiol arbeloa
lass alonso
kaka marcelo
raul benzema

with higuain coming off the bench! I hope and think he will decide the match when he comes in!

Okay seriously, if Higuain's not in the starting XI, this club is seriously messed up.

ludwig Hasbauer
13. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 16.24GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

if you like it or not, the team will be:

casillas
ramos pepe albiol arbeloa
lass alonso
kaka marcelo
raul benzema

with higuain coming off the bench! I hope and think he will decide the match when he comes in!

Okay seriously, if Higuain's not in the starting XI, this club is seriously messed up.

maybe, but maybe not..pelle'S plan before the match was to play benz and higuain, to give a rest to raul who he thinks he needs in milano..higuain hasn't played in 2 weeks because of injury, so he changed benz in minute 60 to keep him fresh for milan..now the problem is that higuain played really well and this gives him in principle three options! and I really think that raul was the best player against milan and many agree with me! read the press if you don't believe me! everybody here knows that higuain is the perfect player to throw in a mtach to change it..you have quite an argument if you say that higuain should start, and maybe benz will be the sub, but why did pelle change benz then?? benz was really good yesterday..

ludwig Hasbauer
14. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 16.44GMT | Nov 1, 2009

I mean higuain came off injury, it's never good for a player to play two times within 3 days after a imjury! we do have an important game on saturday as well!

TheAngelOfMadrid
15. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 16.48GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

if you like it or not, the team will be:

casillas
ramos pepe albiol arbeloa
lass alonso
kaka marcelo
raul benzema

with higuain coming off the bench! I hope and think he will decide the match when he comes in!

Okay seriously, if Higuain's not in the starting XI, this club is seriously messed up.

maybe, but maybe not..pelle'S plan before the match was to play benz and higuain, to give a rest to raul who he thinks he needs in milano..higuain hasn't played in 2 weeks because of injury, so he changed benz in minute 60 to keep him fresh for milan..now the problem is that higuain played really...

Higuain has fresh legs whereas Benzema had played 4 games in 2 weeks. He also took Higuain off you know, and brought on Raul. So it's something that we'll know in the dying minutes, any pair could be used.

ludwig Hasbauer
16. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 17.03GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Okay seriously, if Higuain's not in the starting XI, this club is seriously messed up.

maybe, but maybe not..pelle'S plan before the match was to play benz and higuain, to give a rest to raul who he thinks he needs in milano..higuain hasn't played in 2 weeks because of injury, so he changed benz in minute 60 to keep him fresh for milan..now the problem is that higuain played really...

Higuain has fresh legs whereas Benzema had played 4 games in 2 weeks. He also took Higuain off you know, and brought on Raul. So it's something that we'll know in the dying minutes, any pair could be used.

but u agree on the rest?

Madridista09
17. Madridista09 Wrote: | 17.11GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Don't be surprised if Pelligrini starts Van Nistelrooy.. But i would go with Higuain and Benzema again.

Like i said couple days ago, Higuain will outshine Benzema again.

W335Y09
18. W335Y09 Wrote: | 17.13GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

I mean higuain came off injury, it's never good for a player to play two times within 3 days after a imjury! we do have an important game on saturday as well!

he wasnt imjurd for long..so its alrite for a player to play ...i think higuain will start...away games is al about speed on the counter...same with benzema with playing raul we cant even attack at speed or anything he will slow things down

W335Y09
19. W335Y09 Wrote: | 17.14GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

I mean higuain came off injury, it's never good for a player to play two times within 3 days after a imjury! we do have an important game on saturday as well!

he wasnt imjurd for long..so its alrite for a player to play ...i think higuain will start...away games is al about speed on the counter...same with benzema with playing raul we cant even attack at speed or anything he will slow things down

injurd**

Madrid4Life
20. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 18.37GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

Don't be surprised if Pelligrini starts Van Nistelrooy.. But i would go with Higuain and Benzema again.

Like i said couple days ago, Higuain will outshine Benzema again.

You also said Raul is the best player on the team.

MadridistAli
21. MadridistAli Wrote: | 20.07GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Adambader:

Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

anayth
22. anayth Wrote: | 20.09GMT | Nov 1, 2009

RM in for adriano

LINK

MadridistAli
23. MadridistAli Wrote: | 20.10GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

So what should be the punishment for Guti then? A slap on the wrist? Please!

It's a about time players learned to conduct themselves as professional athletes.

This means:

1) No parties, hangovers, vida loca etc...

2) On time for training every...

he doesn't deserve to wear the shirt? ya you do right,i don't know how old are you but i think Guti was playing in this team before you were born ;)

anayth
24. anayth Wrote: | 20.11GMT | Nov 1, 2009

LINK

In the end it says about Guti

W335Y09
25. W335Y09 Wrote: | 20.19GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

Reply to Adambader:
Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Daniel
26. Daniel Wrote: | 20.27GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Hi guys I haven't been on here for quite a while...my internet is in a really bad state xD

I was so happy to see Higuain start yesterday and I think Higuain and Raul should start against Milan. Higuain is fast and Can hurt the Milan defence really bad. As for Raul he will add some much needed experience against an experienced Milan side.

As we all agreed...we should play 4-2-3-1 to acheive the best possible performance...so I am very happy that actually worked. However I hope that all guys who were saying Benzema is better than Negredo and Higuain finally got their message...

Hope we win against Milan...HALA MADRID

daniel
27. daniel Wrote: | 20.35GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

So what should be the punishment for Guti then? A slap on the wrist? Please!

It's a about time players learned to conduct themselves as professional athletes.

This means:

1) No parties, hangovers, vida loca etc...

2) On time for training every...

Cheers mate your comments tend to make much more sense now...

I have to say though that in a recent interview Guti said Pelle was 80% or the reason he stayed...and that he's quite close to him. He also said that people disrespecting the coach are doing "evil" things...and these things shouldn't be done. So the situation is quite confusing and it would be wiser not to immediately jump to conclusions

Denzel
28. Denzel Wrote: | 22.04GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Both Manchester United and Barcelon are tracking Suarez. Everybody here was claiming Benzema is better. NO WAY! Barca is getting either Robinho or Suarez, we should all pray they get Robinho (or an injured Ribery).

Caracoleo
29. Caracoleo Wrote: | 22.26GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

Reply to Adambader:
Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

Really? I'm not the one judging people by their age, you are.

I do believe that Guti doesn't deserve to wear the shirt. That's my belief. The fact that he pulls off a brilliant pass every 2 months just underscores what a wasted talent he is.

Caracoleo
30. Caracoleo Wrote: | 22.32GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to daniel:

Reply to Caracoleo:
Reply to MadridistAli:

I don't agree on excluding Guti,i don't know about that but i heard that he misbehaved,which isn't a cause to be excluded,seriously,we can use him instead of Dudek or Adan,they'll never take Casillas's place unless he get injured (god forbid)

So what should be the punishment for Guti then? A slap on the wrist? Please!

It's a about time players learned to conduct themselves as professional athletes.

This means:

1) No parties, hangovers, vida loca etc...

2) On time for training every...

Cheers mate your comments tend to make much more sense now...

I have to say though that in a recent interview Guti said Pelle was 80% or the reason he stayed...and that he's quite close to him. He also said that people disrespecting the coach are doing "evil" things...and these things...

was he just saying that 'butter' Pellegrini up?

I firmly believe that Guti will go nowhere. Where else is he going to have a life as easy as at Madrid? The challenge of a new club is way too much for him.

In any case, no European manager will have him anyway. Can you imagine him playing under mark Hughes, Alex Ferguson, Benitez or Wenger? No way!

In the long term. we are better off without Guti.

Denzel
31. Denzel Wrote: | 22.36GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Also I am so glad Guti is left out of the game. Pellegrini needs to show who is in control in the locker room. I hope this decision came from him and not someone higher in the hierarchy. Maybe it’s all or nothing for Pellegrini. I think a manager knows when his time is over, maybe now he’s like screw it. I’ll do it my way, finally. Don’t please the fans or the presidents!

About Ronaldo and the voodoo guy. I think it’s utter bullshit. However football players (like most athletes) are very superstitious. With some bad luck this might become a mental thing.

Madridista09
32. Madridista09 Wrote: | 22.48GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to Madridista09:

Don't be surprised if Pelligrini starts Van Nistelrooy.. But i would go with Higuain and Benzema again.

Like i said couple days ago, Higuain will outshine Benzema again.

You also said Raul is the best player on the team.

when did i say that? get the link

dont start making shit up

Madridista09
33. Madridista09 Wrote: | 22.52GMT | Nov 1, 2009

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

W335Y09
34. W335Y09 Wrote: | 23.57GMT | Nov 1, 2009

Reply to Denzel:

Both Manchester United and Barcelon are tracking Suarez. Everybody here was claiming Benzema is better. NO WAY! Barca is getting either Robinho or Suarez, we should all pray they get Robinho (or an injured Ribery).

watch benzema in a couple of years...hes a future balon dor winner for sure if madrid treat him right

Madridista09
35. Madridista09 Wrote: | 02.22GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Higuain or Benzema are each 5x more talented on their right leg than Suarez will ever be.

DynastyofRealMadrid
36. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 02.31GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Daniel:

Hi guys I haven't been on here for quite a while...my internet is in a really bad state xD

I was so happy to see Higuain start yesterday and I think Higuain and Raul should start against Milan. Higuain is fast and Can hurt the Milan defence really bad. As for Raul he will add some...

we need some pace up front, only being experienced can't help against defender like nesta.

Madridista4
37. Madridista4 Wrote: | 02.34GMT | Nov 2, 2009

I have a feeling that Pellegrini will start Raul again. but what he should do is start the same lineup as vs Getafe with Arbeloa at left back and Benzema and Higuain up front. meaning we still have a strong bench with Raul,RVN,Granero,VDV to help us out

MadridistAli
38. MadridistAli Wrote: | 03.48GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

Reply to MadridistAli:
Reply to Adambader:

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Ya,our point is that he won't get excluded from the list if he misbehaved,and maybe Guti was going to make it up on the Milan game

MadridistAli
39. MadridistAli Wrote: | 03.49GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Denzel:

Both Manchester United and Barcelon are tracking Suarez. Everybody here was claiming Benzema is better. NO WAY! Barca is getting either Robinho or Suarez, we should all pray they get Robinho (or an injured Ribery).

are you saying Suarez better than Robinho? 8O LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! =D

Madrid4Life
40. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 05.31GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not even in his peak form!! Do we even have to negotiate that?

++++

I wanna ask people a question here and would really like everyones input on this.

||||
Do you think Raul would start if he played in the top 4 EPL teams?
||||

Answer Honestly, and say why.

anthony wallace
41. anthony wallace Wrote: | 06.09GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not...

well in his recent form i'll have to say no but the most glaring reason is the fact that raul has no pace wat so eva! The only time raul should start is against weak teams and for godsake even if he does start take the old man off after halftime!!!!!!! Dont let him play 80 or sometimes the whole 90 mins while benzema and higuain get subed TOATLY outrageous! Dont raul need some rest! And the dude neva gets injured!!!!!!!! Man i loved seeing Higuain and benzema upfront at the same time. These guys can give any diffence a tuff time believe that! Madrid for life!!!!!!!!!!!

Madrid4Life
42. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 06.19GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to anthony wallace:

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not...

well in his recent form i'll have to say no but the most glaring reason is the fact that raul has no pace wat so eva! The only time raul should start is against weak teams and for godsake even if he does start take the old man off after halftime!!!!!!! Dont let him play 80 or sometimes the whole 90...

You raise a very intriguing point?

Why does Raul never get injured?

I will not lie. The most fit players in the world are Barcelona's and they still don't manage to play as much as Raul does.

So is it because he's super humanly fit? Or is it because he never actually gives that extra leap and stretch in his performance?

Cr9 got injured just because of how much he was trying to push himself for the team!

Caracoleo
43. Caracoleo Wrote: | 07.01GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

Caracoleo
44. Caracoleo Wrote: | 07.03GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not...

Honest answer?



No. Because he is rubbish.




And to answer your first question; yes, it is clearly obligatory for him to play at Real Madrid.

Caracoleo
45. Caracoleo Wrote: | 07.06GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to anthony wallace:
Reply to Madrid4Life:

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not...

well in his recent form i'll have to say no but the most glaring reason is the fact that raul has no pace wat so eva! The only time raul should start is against weak teams and for godsake even if he does start take the old man off after halftime!!!!!!! Dont let him play 80 or sometimes the whole 90...

You raise a very intriguing point?

Why does Raul never get injured?

I will not lie. The most fit players in the world are Barcelona's and they still don't manage to play as much as Raul does.

So is it because he's super humanly fit? Or is it because he never...

He doesn't get injured because if you think about it, it is actually impossible to get injured if you never run faster than 2km/h!

Also he doesn't dribble, so defenders never lunge in at him. The only fouls he attracts are the odd shirt pulls here and there. That's not going to injure you.

Ryan McManus
46. Ryan McManus Wrote: | 07.42GMT | Nov 2, 2009

blah blah blah... and you two guys are back to perpetuating the same old nonsense.

Madrid4Life
47. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 07.52GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Ryan McManus:

blah blah blah... and you two guys are back to perpetuating the same old nonsense.

Do you think Raul would start if he played in the top 4 EPL teams?

DynastyofRealMadrid
48. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.53GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to Madridista09:

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

i don't think he can't cross but i think he is still not so mature on attack esp he usually plays with his fancy dribble and ended up dispossessed. he gotta learn how to play like a wingback and to play with 1 touch. he has the pace to run down to the flank without the ball and open up the space for the creaters to pass but not being the creater himself.

Madrid4Life
49. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 07.54GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to Madridista09:

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

No I think he's very good at crossing. Atleast he was last season but seems like he lost his touch after his injury a little.

TheAngelOfMadrid
50. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 08.02GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to Caracoleo:
Reply to Madridista09:

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

No I think he's very good at crossing. Atleast he was last season but seems like he lost his touch after his injury a little.

His crosses are still good, but there's nobody tall enough to meet them at the moment. Higuain and Ronaldo are pretty decent with headers and so is RVN. Ramos is improving game-by-game and he will slowly regain his form. I also think this formation doesn't suit him. He needs to do ALL the work of crossing since there are no wingers and thus he's got to track back real fast. Our problem is left-back not right-back though. I still think Lahm or Clichy would be ideal. I don't understand why Perez didn't go for Lahm.

Madrid4Life
51. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 08.27GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to Caracoleo:
Reply to Madridista09:

I really like how Sergio Ramos played, probably one of his best games thus far.

What is more likely is Pelligrini will bench Benzema and have Raul partner up with Higuain. Or Benzema will start since he came off early, idk but Pelligrini knows what he's doing.

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

i don't think he can't cross but i think he is still not so mature on attack esp he usually plays with his fancy dribble and ended up dispossessed. he gotta learn how to play like a wingback and to play with 1 touch. he has the pace to run down to the flank without the ball and open up the space for...

Arbeloa on the other hand and I noticed this since he came that he knows exactly when to attack and defend. He is realy a talented RB/LB. I was wondering how we got him for so cheap after Getafe's performance.

Shre7
52. Shre7 Wrote: | 09.23GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

Reply to MadridistAli:
Reply to Adambader:

If he DID disrespect Pellegrini, then I would go on to exclude him from the TEAM for at least three months. THERE HAS TO BE A CODE OF CONDUCT.

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Hey can anyone tell me what has ronaldo ever done to piss off SAF in his six years in man u...!!

even players like becks managed to piss off SAF, while ronaldo, parties and scores babes, but then trains really hards, respects the staff and helps win, he doesn't need to throw tantrums like guti...!!

Shre7
53. Shre7 Wrote: | 09.24GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Caracoleo:

Yeh, he played in the centre of defence! Remember how he used to play when he first joined Real Madrid?

I think he is better suited to that popsition actually. Does anyone think that Sergio Ramos can't cross a ball?

i don't think he can't cross but i think he is still not so mature on attack esp he usually plays with his fancy dribble and ended up dispossessed. he gotta learn how to play like a wingback and to play with 1 touch. he has the pace to run down to the flank without the ball and open up the space for...

Arbeloa on the other hand and I noticed this since he came that he knows exactly when to attack and defend. He is realy a talented RB/LB. I was wondering how we got him for so cheap after Getafe's performance.

He only had one year left on his contract at liverpool, plus he is madrista and always wanted to play for the first team!!!

Shre7
54. Shre7 Wrote: | 09.30GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to anthony wallace:
Reply to Madrid4Life:

Lol, I like how some people still think Raul should start.

Why in Gods name can't we let Higuan and Benzema play together and Gel?

Is it absolutely obligatory to have Raul start?

Was it like heartbreaking seeing him on bench for people?

He's not...

well in his recent form i'll have to say no but the most glaring reason is the fact that raul has no pace wat so eva! The only time raul should start is against weak teams and for godsake even if he does start take the old man off after halftime!!!!!!! Dont let him play 80 or sometimes the whole 90...

You raise a very intriguing point?

Why does Raul never get injured?

I will not lie. The most fit players in the world are Barcelona's and they still don't manage to play as much as Raul does.

So is it because he's super humanly fit? Or is it because he never...

to answer your first question i wouldnt put raul in the starting xi against milan, i agree to a lot of yr points except for the commitment part, rather the only thing going for raul is his 100% commitment for the club, and i have always thought he is a very intelligent player, the reason he doesnt get injured often is probably because he doesnt get fouled/ tackled a lot....!!

Shre7
55. Shre7 Wrote: | 09.31GMT | Nov 2, 2009

I am actually rooting for RVN & higauin start up against milan........!!

that would be a pleasant surprise...!!

anthony wallace
56. anthony wallace Wrote: | 12.49GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Shre7:

I am actually rooting for RVN & higauin start up against milan........!!

that would be a pleasant surprise...!!

You know it would be a surprise but like i said b4 i think we should start with higuian and benzema than sub 1 of them for either vannisteroy or raul BUt neva the both of them cos that means the pace upfront will be gone!!!!

MadridistAli
57. MadridistAli Wrote: | 13.31GMT | Nov 2, 2009

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Reply to W335Y09:
Reply to MadridistAli:

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Hey can anyone tell me what has ronaldo ever done to piss off SAF in his six years in man u...!!

even players like becks managed to piss off SAF, while ronaldo, parties and scores babes, but then trains really hards, respects the staff and helps win, he doesn't need to throw tantrums...

I can dude,and it was why we had him in the first place,he fought with SAF during the half time or at the end of the match of the CK final against Fashalona,so he PISSED him in the end point and he gave Man shit the green light to sell him

Denzel
58. Denzel Wrote: | 13.57GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

Reply to Denzel:

Both Manchester United and Barcelon are tracking Suarez. Everybody here was claiming Benzema is better. NO WAY! Barca is getting either Robinho or Suarez, we should all pray they get Robinho (or an injured Ribery).

are you saying Suarez better than Robinho? 8O LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! =D

Just wait and see. Laugh now, cry later.

madridista 4life
59. madridista 4life Wrote: | 13.57GMT | Nov 2, 2009

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

loco
60. loco Wrote: | 14.45GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Hello! Fellow Madridistas, sorry to dishearten U, but I think Pelle is so dumb he's still gonna start Raul in the Milan game, and the way we are playing recently without Ronaldo, I say there's a 95% chance we'll lose to AC Milan.
Don't raise ur expectations so much before the game, and then cry later!
Hala Laudrup or Mancini! ;)

Madridista09
61. Madridista09 Wrote: | 14.48GMT | Nov 2, 2009

One of the strikers tomorrow have to beat Nesta which is really hard, he's still one of the best defender in the world.

TheAngelOfMadrid
62. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 14.49GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to loco:

Hello! Fellow Madridistas, sorry to dishearten U, but I think Pelle is so dumb he's still gonna start Raul in the Milan game, and the way we are playing recently without Ronaldo, I say there's a 95% chance we'll lose to AC Milan.
Don't raise ur expectations so much before the game, and then...

There's much more to coaches playing Raul than you think. The best of coaches have come and gone but nobody has the balls to bench Raul. Raul has more power in the club than you think. If Higuain plays, we have a genuine chance of winning because he can easily make Milan's old legs tire with his pace. He is the key to winning this game. Higuain, Benzema and Kaka have to perform.

Madridista09
63. Madridista09 Wrote: | 14.50GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

anthony wallace
64. anthony wallace Wrote: | 15.10GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

We can afford to play raul against weak teams where he can get the balls in the midfield and work his ass off ( admitted he has heart no argument) but not against big teams in crucial matches heart just doesnt cut it. No sentiments attached raul just cant cope wit top grade defenders period! Where he wont get the chance to poke or tap in a hat trick! All we are left wit is a man that slows us down which is suicide in football! Lets be honest with our selves rude van nisteroy has no pace but he is still mo lethal than raul enuff said!

Madrid4Life
65. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 15.14GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

This comment made me lol!

Giving credit to a player who's doing something he shouldn't be doing EVER.

Only in Raul Madrid my friends 8) Only in Raul Madrid!

madridista 4life
66. madridista 4life Wrote: | 15.14GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

he might help a little did u watch the team vs alcorcon he helped benzema and the other atackers sooo much that they allllmost scored.

W335Y09
67. W335Y09 Wrote: | 15.16GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

Reply to W335Y09:
Reply to MadridistAli:

Seriously? 8O,i am 100% sure that Cristina will misbehave one day,lets see what will Pelle do about it,i bet he won't even think in excluding him

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Ya,our point is that he won't get excluded from the list if he misbehaved,and maybe Guti was going to make it up on the Milan game

you have to make it up on traininnn first then the game guti never "makes it up" for anything he is pure lazy

W335Y09
68. W335Y09 Wrote: | 15.18GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Denzel:

Reply to MadridistAli:
Reply to Denzel:

Both Manchester United and Barcelon are tracking Suarez. Everybody here was claiming Benzema is better. NO WAY! Barca is getting either Robinho or Suarez, we should all pray they get Robinho (or an injured Ribery).

are you saying Suarez better than Robinho? 8O LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! =D

Just wait and see. Laugh now, cry later.

haha im sorry mate but suarez isnt gona be better then ronaldo

W335Y09
69. W335Y09 Wrote: | 15.19GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to Madrid4Life:
Reply to anthony wallace:

well in his recent form i'll have to say no but the most glaring reason is the fact that raul has no pace wat so eva! The only time raul should start is against weak teams and for godsake even if he does start take the old man off after halftime!!!!!!! Dont let him play 80 or sometimes the whole 90...

You raise a very intriguing point?

Why does Raul never get injured?

I will not lie. The most fit players in the world are Barcelona's and they still don't manage to play as much as Raul does.

So is it because he's super humanly fit? Or is it because he never...

He doesn't get injured because if you think about it, it is actually impossible to get injured if you never run faster than 2km/h!

Also he doesn't dribble, so defenders never lunge in at him. The only fouls he attracts are the odd shirt pulls here and there. That's not going to injure...

that is so true lol

madridista 4life
70. madridista 4life Wrote: | 15.32GMT | Nov 2, 2009

probable line up

casillas

SR pepe albiol arbeloa

lass alonso

kaka marcelo

higuain benzema

subs: raul to benzema
kaka to vdv
and maybe v nistelroy to higuain or drenthe to marcelo depends on the game action

hala madrid

Madrid4Life
71. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 15.38GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Franco Pareza, former Milan player says that "Kaka plays better without Raul in the formation".

He said "Real Madrid is obligated to play with Raul, but the optimal attacking duo would be Benzema and Higuan behind them Kaka and Cristiano as left and right wings. I think Kaka plays better without Raul but that would raise a problem if you don't start Raul since he's the captain."

trooper
72. trooper Wrote: | 15.58GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Franco Pareza, former Milan player says that "Kaka plays better without Raul in the formation".

He said "Real Madrid is obligated to play with Raul, but the optimal attacking duo would be Benzema and Higuan behind them Kaka and Cristiano as left and right wings. I think Kaka plays...

it was actually franco baresi who said those words and is considered as milan's greatest ever captian>>>i think this says a lot about raul's power..damn even if u play manager mode in fifa 2009 the board ask u to play raul in every game cause he is a fan favourite...lmao

Denzel
73. Denzel Wrote: | 16.47GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

Reply to Denzel:
Reply to MadridistAli:

are you saying Suarez better than Robinho? 8O LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! =D

Just wait and see. Laugh now, cry later.

haha im sorry mate but suarez isnt gona be better then ronaldo

Not Ronaldo, Robinho. Funny Ferguson did call him the ideal replacement for Ronaldo, but I won't compare the 2. Anyways he's 22 and making progress rapidly. Just wait and see. If he grows half as fast in Spain or England as he does in Holland he can become one of the best. And don't compare him to the others coming from the Dutch league such as Huntelaar, Van Der Vaart, Sneijder. He'll rise above them with ease, mainly cause he can play different roles.

Caracoleo
74. Caracoleo Wrote: | 18.01GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

Raul TRIES to help. He works his ass off.

But that is not the same as ACTUALLY HELPING. He's got a good work ethic - but that is simply not enough to play for Real Madrid.

If you noticed the other day, when he came on with 'fresh' legs running all over the place, chasing here and there against tired, worn out Getafe defenders - How many times did Raul actually TOUCH the ball?

There is no end product to his work rate. And when you also consider that he gets in the way of Kaka - something quite patent in the Getafe game - then you have to conclude that Raul does not really help the team.

He plays to the gallery. Look how hard I am working. Look how much I chase. Look how I never give up running...

But can he actually get close enough to defenders to pressurise them? I would say no.

Caracoleo
75. Caracoleo Wrote: | 18.03GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Does anyone else think we should play Marcelo on the wing, with Kaka just behind a lone striker?

At least for the away match in Milan?

Denzel
76. Denzel Wrote: | 18.18GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Marcelo was one of our worst players in the Getafe game, but I don't think we have another choice. There are no good alternatives. I feel sorry for Drenthe. Being man of the match against Milan last time but the result they had was bad. Now everybody is harsh on him again after his last performance. I think he should pack his bags and find his luck for another team in January.

MadridistAli
77. MadridistAli Wrote: | 18.24GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Denzel:

Marcelo was one of our worst players in the Getafe game, but I don't think we have another choice. There are no good alternatives. I feel sorry for Drenthe. Being man of the match against Milan last time but the result they had was bad. Now everybody is harsh on him again after his last performance....

Yo are you nuts (no offense) 8O Pato was the man of the match not Drenthe

Denzel
78. Denzel Wrote: | 18.31GMT | Nov 2, 2009

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Reply to Denzel:

Marcelo was one of our worst players in the Getafe game, but I don't think we have another choice. There are no good alternatives. I feel sorry for Drenthe. Being man of the match against Milan last time but the result they had was bad. Now everybody is harsh on him again after his last performance....

Yo are you nuts (no offense) 8O Pato was the man of the match not Drenthe

For Real Madrid! You think they would announce a A.C. Milan player as man of the match in Santiago Bernabéu? Really?

W335Y09
79. W335Y09 Wrote: | 19.52GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Reply to Madridista09:
Reply to madridista 4life:

does anyone here think real madrid play 10 against 12 whenever raul is on the starting line up because he never helps and always fades out during the game.....

play with higuain and benzema thats when real have a full starting line up to score and most important to hold posession

He never helps????
Have you been watching games lately? He's usually always getting the balls in the midfield and working his ass off. Sure he doesn't score as he used to, but u cant say he never helps out.

Raul TRIES to help. He works his ass off.

But that is not the same as ACTUALLY HELPING. He's got a good work ethic - but that is simply not enough to play for Real Madrid.

If you noticed the other day, when he came on with 'fresh' legs running all over the place, chasing...

lol i would actuatly think cassillas gets more touches on the ball then raul?

its like if you had rate raul you would give him a 100 in work ethic...anybody can chase down the ball and that...even the groundsman can chase the ball down...whats the point when you cant deliver and when you do deliver its like open goals

Caracoleo
80. Caracoleo Wrote: | 20.02GMT | Nov 2, 2009

I'm just wondering, I think Marcelo is a good winger - not a good defender, so surely (and against my earlier wishes) we should be playing Arbeloa as left wing back.

I would play:

---------------Casillas---------------

--Ramos---Pepe--------Albiol--Arbeloa-

Higuain----Alonso---Lasssana--Marcelo

---------------Kaka--------------

--------------Benzema-------------


Drenthe would lose out. But he and Van Der Vaart could be useful subs to bring on in the second half.

Ryan McManus
81. Ryan McManus Wrote: | 20.03GMT | Nov 2, 2009

I would think that we have come to an agreement about Raul. He can no longer play 90 minutes and will have to sit on the bench. I do conceed that when he does play he slows down the pace of the match and struggles to link up with Benzema and Kaka. Nevertheless, you all must conceed that he was an exemplary leader from the bench. Look, I like Guti's eccentric style, but Raul is just a born leader. He still has much to offer to Real Madrid, even if he does not play regularly. I do not think that it is right to say that he is the reason for our past failures. The player on the Real Madrid bench against Getafe is not one that would use the Spanish media to control the club to serve himself. I don't really think he should start, but I do hope Raul makes an appearance in Milan, even if it's only five minutes worth.

melbournemadridista
82. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 20.12GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Does anyone else think we should play Marcelo on the wing, with Kaka just behind a lone striker?

At least for the away match in Milan?

i would go for derenthe, as his confidence level should be high(as his performance against milan was good) .

Caracoleo
83. Caracoleo Wrote: | 20.16GMT | Nov 2, 2009

An exemplary leader from the bench? It might be true, but I just don't see any evidence to support this.

I don't even know what that means in concrete terms.

On a slightly different note, I didn't see him jumping up and down when Higuain scored.

Neither did Higuain run towards Raul on the sidelines to celebrate with him as a show of solidarity - as you expect if you are ready to believe that Raul is a born leader.

Madrid4Life
84. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 21.57GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

An exemplary leader from the bench? It might be true, but I just don't see any evidence to support this.

I don't even know what that means in concrete terms.

On a slightly different note, I didn't see him jumping up and down when Higuain scored.

Neither did...

Well he does clap his hands alot.. Give him some credit lol :D

ANYWAY HOT NEWS: Rather disturbing though;


We're going in tomorrow with a possible 4:3:3 formation.

Raul Benz Higuan upfront.


We are gonna get our asses handed to us if so :) I really do hope I'm terribly wrong.


"Raul must play... Pellegrini you must incorporate a new formation that has Raul"

-Raul Madridistas

W335Y09
85. W335Y09 Wrote: | 23.11GMT | Nov 2, 2009

benzema and higuain will start up front but raul might start aswell instead of marcelo WTF

Madridista4
86. Madridista4 Wrote: | 23.26GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Yeah im hearing same lineup vs Getafe the only change is Raul in for Marcelo.. im not sure I agree because Marcelo is a good winger and he served up the first goal for us and this will take our wing attack away really and also this might limit Higuain to go up much because you know Raul will be up there as well as Benzema

anayth
87. anayth Wrote: | 23.40GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Madrid will attack from first minute -

LINK

DynastyofRealMadrid
88. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 23.44GMT | Nov 2, 2009

this lineup is about some bullshit!! we needed to play like how we played against getafe, the formation suits us the best with marcelo on the left flank while higuain move a little rightward. this is about some bullshit. we can't play milan with THIS 4-3-3 unless Benze can step up and replace the CR9 role. we needs such a player on our left. Raul can't run like marcelo on the flank and his constant dropback will limit kaka's space.

DynastyofRealMadrid
89. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 23.46GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

this lineup is about some bullshit!! we needed to play like how we played against getafe, the formation suits us the best with marcelo on the left flank while higuain move a little rightward. this is about some bullshit. we can't play milan with THIS 4-3-3 unless Benze can step up and replace the...

with raul starts ahead of marcelo, the only possible formation i can come up with is still 4-3-3, but it must be more like 4-2-3-1 with benze on the left wing while higuain on the right. raul will stay up front but he shouldn't drop back to hte midfield like he used to, he should constantly stay inside the box.

anayth
90. anayth Wrote: | 23.47GMT | Nov 2, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

this lineup is about some bullshit!! we needed to play like how we played against getafe, the formation suits us the best with marcelo on the left flank while higuain move a little rightward. this is about some bullshit. we can't play milan with THIS 4-3-3 unless Benze can step up and replace the...

Not sure if it is confirmed, but if it is , then I think it is what is going to happen. Benezema will play on left wing and Raul will the poacher.. =D

Madridista09
91. Madridista09 Wrote: | 00.01GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Marca will have the official lineup in a couple hours.

Madridista09
92. Madridista09 Wrote: | 00.44GMT | Nov 3, 2009

I predict this lineup:
__________Casillas________
Ramos____Pepe___Albiol___Arbeloa
________Xabi_______Lass
Higuain_____Kaka______Drenthe
___________Raul______

Madridista09
93. Madridista09 Wrote: | 04.58GMT | Nov 3, 2009

OFFICIAL LINEUP:
----Casillas-------
Ramos---Pepe---Albiol---Arbeloa
-------Xabi------Lass------
---Kaka---------------Marcelo---
--------Higuain----Benzema

Madrid4Life
94. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 05.02GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

this lineup is about some bullshit!! we needed to play like how we played against getafe, the formation suits us the best with marcelo on the left flank while higuain move a little rightward. this is about some bullshit. we can't play milan with THIS 4-3-3 unless Benze can step up and replace the...

with raul starts ahead of marcelo, the only possible formation i can come up with is still 4-3-3, but it must be more like 4-2-3-1 with benze on the left wing while higuain on the right. raul will stay up front but he shouldn't drop back to hte midfield like he used to, he should constantly stay...

Well yeah it can theoretically work but as you said Raul needs to be upfront all times and Higuan+Benz will need to dribble/sprint from the flanks consistently otherwise I really don't see this formation working.


You guys think Pellegrini is bluffing? "I'll attack from the first minute".

One things for sure Ac Milan aren't what they were 3-4 years ago.

I think individually we have the potential to beat Milan in every position, the biggest and only thing we lack is experience compared to them.

We need to step up our mental game; shock them with an early goal then maybe a second goal in the begining of the second half.

We must shuttup the San Siro at all costs.

Oh and about Kaka, lets see how much of a professional he is: This is the real test for him.

Madrid4Life
95. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 05.08GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

OFFICIAL LINEUP:
----Casillas-------
Ramos---Pepe---Albiol---Arbeloa
-------Xabi------Lass------
---Kaka---------------Marcelo---
--------Higuain----Benzema

Source? How can the official lineup be given away 24 hours before the game?

DynastyofRealMadrid
96. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 05.38GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

this lineup is about some bullshit!! we needed to play like how we played against getafe, the formation suits us the best with marcelo on the left flank while higuain move a little rightward. this is about some bullshit. we can't play milan with THIS 4-3-3 unless Benze can step up and replace the...

with raul starts ahead of marcelo, the only possible formation i can come up with is still 4-3-3, but it must be more like 4-2-3-1 with benze on the left wing while higuain on the right. raul will stay up front but he shouldn't drop back to hte midfield like he used to, he should constantly stay...

Well yeah it can theoretically work but as you said Raul needs to be upfront all times and Higuan+Benz will need to dribble/sprint from the flanks consistently otherwise I really don't see this formation working.


You guys think Pellegrini is bluffing? "I'll attack from the first...

i do think it another way, i agree that milan is getting weaker but they are in a very good form recently. and i think the majority of our players wouldn't be lacking of experience compared to them. even benze had been battling in CL with Lyon for years. i don't know whether pelle is bluffing or not. but if the lineup madridista09 said was true, i think it's very likely for us to launch sudden attack. we can threaten their backline with counterattack. i just worried about our defense. i am afraid S.Ramos would have trouble facing the "re-born" ronaldinho since the former hasn't fully regained his form.

MilkWeed18
97. MilkWeed18 Wrote: | 05.54GMT | Nov 3, 2009

I hate it when games are hyped like this. It makes me so impatient. Cant wait for the kick-off.
I say Madrid wins 3-0. 1-0 Kaka, 2-0 Benzema, 3-0 Higuain. Hala Madrid =D

W335Y09
98. W335Y09 Wrote: | 06.00GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to Madridista09:

OFFICIAL LINEUP:
----Casillas-------
Ramos---Pepe---Albiol---Arbeloa
-------Xabi------Lass------
---Kaka---------------Marcelo---
--------Higuain----Benzema

Source? How can the official lineup be given away 24 hours before the game?

that is the line up mate....jus watch its gona be that

DynastyofRealMadrid
99. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 06.05GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to W335Y09:

Reply to Madrid4Life:
Reply to Madridista09:

OFFICIAL LINEUP:
----Casillas-------
Ramos---Pepe---Albiol---Arbeloa
-------Xabi------Lass------
---Kaka---------------Marcelo---
--------Higuain----Benzema

Source? How can the official lineup be given away 24 hours before the game?

that is the line up mate....jus watch its gona be that

this is the best and the most appropriate lineup we can have against milan. im not too optimistic about the game(in terms of the likelihood that we can beat them at san siro). but i hope that we can at least show the rest of world that real madrid is coming back. hala madrid!!

Madridista09
100. Madridista09 Wrote: | 06.07GMT | Nov 3, 2009

I have a good source for official line ups.

I'm surprised Pelligrini went with a diamond 4-4-2 instead of his 4-2-3-1 or goal.com's 4-3-3.

Him starting Higuain and Benzema is a strong statement, it shows he wants to win and want to develop the Higuain-Benzema partnership which will be the best in the world soon. it could be like the old Raul-Morientes or Raul-Ronaldo.

Madridista09
101. Madridista09 Wrote: | 06.12GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

Reply to Madridista09:

OFFICIAL LINEUP:
----Casillas-------
Ramos---Pepe---Albiol---Arbeloa
-------Xabi------Lass------
---Kaka---------------Marcelo---
--------Higuain----Benzema

Source? How can the official lineup be given away 24 hours before the game?

Not 24 hours, more like 12 hours...
Milan's will most likely be:
-------Dida-----
Zambrotta---Nesta---T.Silva---Oddo
----Ambrosini---Pirlo---Seedorf
-------Pato-----------Ronaldinho
------------Inzaghi

TheAngelOfMadrid
102. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 06.39GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to Madridista09:

I have a good source for official line ups.

I'm surprised Pelligrini went with a diamond 4-4-2 instead of his 4-2-3-1 or goal.com's 4-3-3.

Him starting Higuain and Benzema is a strong statement, it shows he wants to win and want to develop the Higuain-Benzema partnership...

It's not a diamond mate, well, it is on paper but on the field it's not.
Higuain drops back to right-winger when they actually take the field and Kaka plays in the center, where he loves to play. So this is really the ideal formation for us. I remember everyone talking about the 4-2-3-1 back when Robben was around and Ronaldo was fit. Them on the wings would be like heaven. Anyways, I have high hopes for this game. No Raul which means we're much stronger on the counter.

RMFantasy
103. RMFantasy Wrote: | 06.51GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Well IMO, Milan will be playing more defensively with counter attacking. They have won the 1st game against us and i am expecting 9 Milan players defending the ball.

Our players will have a hard time to penetrate. Hope we will win even if we win 1-0.

anthony wallace
104. anthony wallace Wrote: | 08.49GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to W335Y09:
Reply to Madrid4Life:

Source? How can the official lineup be given away 24 hours before the game?

that is the line up mate....jus watch its gona be that

this is the best and the most appropriate lineup we can have against milan. im not too optimistic about the game(in terms of the likelihood that we can beat them at san siro). but i hope that we can at least show the rest of world that real madrid is coming back. hala madrid!!

:D Man if we use this lineup i'll have no fear wat so eva and even if we do lose hey thats football but i'll perfer losing wit my best options than to lose cos we failed to use our strongest team! Now that i know higuain and benzema is starting im feelin a whole lot more confident! Madrid 4 life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DynastyofRealMadrid
105. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 09.43GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to RMFantasy:

Well IMO, Milan will be playing more defensively with counter attacking. They have won the 1st game against us and i am expecting 9 Milan players defending the ball.

Our players will have a hard time to penetrate. Hope we will win even if we win 1-0.

they will considerably defend but they completely won't concede, they will still at attack as usual. its gonna be a 50-50 game and i won't be suprised with a draw. of course, i 300% hope we can beat that crap out of them, hala madrid.

ludwig Hasbauer
106. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 10.09GMT | Nov 3, 2009

switch zambrotta and oddo! and you might hit the nail! wonder if borriello starts since he scored twice against parma! last time I had a strange feeling for us, today I am quite confident! hala madrid!

DynastyofRealMadrid
107. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 10.39GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

switch zambrotta and oddo! and you might hit the nail! wonder if borriello starts since he scored twice against parma! last time I had a strange feeling for us, today I am quite confident! hala madrid!

i guess borriello will come in at the second half. i prefer inzaghi who is more experienced in CL(i would start borriello if i was leonardo, though). however, their most dangerous man upfront is still the tiny pato. and with ronaldinho being the creater on the left. the most dangerous thing for us is that ronaldinho cuts in and crosses to the far pole to the penetrating pato cuz most likely our CBs would be attracted by their central striker. im glad that we start arbeloa as Lb. he usually recovered to the middle on time. and will be a very good helper for pepe and albiol.

Shre7
108. Shre7 Wrote: | 11.01GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to MadridistAli:

Reply to Shre7:
Reply to W335Y09:

ok even if ronaldo misbehaves he always makes it up in traning and matches...what does guti do?

Hey can anyone tell me what has ronaldo ever done to piss off SAF in his six years in man u...!!

even players like becks managed to piss off SAF, while ronaldo, parties and scores babes, but then trains really hards, respects the staff and helps win, he doesn't need to throw tantrums...

I can dude,and it was why we had him in the first place,he fought with SAF during the half time or at the end of the match of the CK final against Fashalona,so he PISSED him in the end point and he gave Man shit the green light to sell him

I think that was more to with him to come and play for madrid..........!!!!!

anayth
109. anayth Wrote: | 11.48GMT | Nov 3, 2009

By saying , RM is going to attack from the first min, i think Pelle has started mind games .. =D .
Kaka will be inspired by the occasion and will score in Madrid win 2-0
goal.com is yet to put the prediction...

Adambader
110. Adambader Wrote: | 12.28GMT | Nov 3, 2009

My thoughts
LINK

DynastyofRealMadrid
111. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 12.37GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to anayth:

By saying , RM is going to attack from the first min, i think Pelle has started mind games .. =D .
Kaka will be inspired by the occasion and will score in Madrid win 2-0
goal.com is yet to put the prediction...

don't be too optimistic to think that we can finish this game with clean sheet. it may shock u guys but the one i worry the most is -----SERGIO RAMOS. Ronaldinho is gonna create a lot of trouble on our right flank. honestly i rather use Lass as the right back and put Sergio Ramos to the CB position with which he played more comfortably. he has been struggle on being overwhelming on both attack and defend at the flank and his defense is recently below average. he doesn't pay enough attention at all. hopefully he will regain his form and at least try hard to reduce our damage.

madridista 4life
112. madridista 4life Wrote: | 13.28GMT | Nov 3, 2009

raul will sit on the bench LINK

W335Y09
113. W335Y09 Wrote: | 16.46GMT | Nov 3, 2009

Reply to anayth:

By saying , RM is going to attack from the first min, i think Pelle has started mind games .. =D .
Kaka will be inspired by the occasion and will score in Madrid win 2-0
goal.com is yet to put the prediction...

they said milan will win 2-1 Goal.com

myrecks hodge
114. myrecks hodge Wrote: | 08.48GMT | Nov 9, 2009

Reply to Madrid4Life:

lol adam thats the most contradicting sentence you've ever written :P

" Many fans are claiming that the team is much more better without Guti and Raul; it is the same in fact. We still don't have style, but when you exclude Guti and Raul (when they are under-performing) and play in-form...

lol actually i was surprised he was well recieved in milan they didint boo or anything and when he left there were clapping at him and stuff frankly i was surprised

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